Can Static Friction Do Positive Work? A Pen and Paper Experiment

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The discussion revolves around the concept of static friction and its potential to perform positive work, specifically through a practical demonstration involving a pen and a sheet of paper. Participants are exploring how to illustrate this concept effectively.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are considering various methods to demonstrate static friction doing positive work, including placing a pen on paper and moving the paper without the pen moving relative to it. Questions about the implications of these actions and whether static friction is indeed doing work are raised.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with multiple interpretations being explored. Some participants suggest specific actions to take, while others seek clarification on the original question posed by the teacher. There is no explicit consensus yet, but several productive ideas are being shared.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the lack of detailed instructions from the teacher, which may lead to varying interpretations of how to demonstrate the concept effectively.

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I was left bewildered by a question our teacher left us to think about over the next week. He asked us how we can demonstrate static friction doing positive work, using a pen and a sheet of paper. Can anyone tell me how I can do this, and why this is so?
 
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I'm not sure what you are asking for. Do you just need an example of static friction doing positive work?
 
Pathos_Verdes said:
I was left bewildered by a question our teacher left us to think about over the next week. He asked us how we can demonstrate static friction doing positive work, using a pen and a sheet of paper. Can anyone tell me how I can do this, and why this is so?

Any vehicle is moved forward by static friction...
 
How about the static friction force acting on a crate sitting on the flat bed of an accelerating truck? If the crate is not moving with respect to the truck, is the static friction force doing work??
 
He didn't give us any other detail. Just those I have stated.
 
I think he wants you to place a pen on a sheet of paper, then pull the paper with the pen not moving relative to it. :cool:

Or maybe he wants you to draw a sketch on the paper using a pen instead of a pencil. :eek::wink:

If it's the first case, what does this show, if anything?:bugeye:
 
Pathos_Verdes said:
He didn't give us any other detail. Just those I have stated.

So put your pen on the paper and rotate it, or move it, so the paper starts moving.
That should do the trick.
 

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