Can this trigonometric equation be solved for x_1 and x_2 in terms of \alpha?

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The discussion focuses on solving a system of trigonometric equations for x_1 and x_2 in terms of α. The equations can be manipulated to express one variable in terms of the other, leading to the conclusion that x_1 can be zero or dependent on the value of sin(α). Special cases arise when sin(α) equals zero, resulting in different solutions for x_1 and x_2 based on the values of cos(α). A proposed solution suggests using x_1 = cos(α/2) and x_2 = sin(α/2), which satisfies the original equations. The conversation concludes with a query about the existence of a general method for solving these variables based on α.
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x_1(cos\alpha-1) + x_2sin\alpha = 0
x_1sin\alpha + x_2(-cos\alpha-1) = 0
How to solve this equation? Can anyone help me?
 
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It's a system of equations: 2 equations in 2 unknowns. That means you can solve it. Just solve for one unknown in terms of the other using the first equation, and then subsitute that into the second.
 
Let me try...

Solve equation 1:
x_2 = \frac{-x_1(cos\alpha - 1)}{sin\alpha}

Substitute it to the second:
x_1sin\alpha + \frac{-x_1(cos\alpha - 1)}{sin\alpha}(-cos\alpha-1) = 0

x_1sin\alpha + \frac{x_1(cos^2\alpha - 1)}{sin\alpha} = 0

2x_1sin\alpha = 0

What is the solutions for 2x_1sin\alpha = 0?
Obviously one is x_1=0, but if sin\alpha = 0, then...
 
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physicsRookie said:
Let me try...

Solve equation 1:
x_2 = \frac{-x_1(cos\alpha - 1)}{sin\alpha}

Substitute it to the second:
x_1sin\alpha + \frac{-x_1(cos\alpha - 1)}{sin\alpha}(-cos\alpha-1) = 0

x_1sin\alpha + \frac{x_1(cos^2\alpha - 1)}{sin\alpha} = 0

2x_1sin\alpha = 0

What is the solutions for 2x_1sin\alpha = 0?
Obviously one is x_1=0, but if sin\alpha = 0, then...
Well done. The point is, of course, that \alpha is a number (not one of the variables) so these can be solved like any pair of equations for x1 and x2.
Notice, by the way, that if sin\alpha= 0, your first step, dividing by that, would be invalid. You have to look at this case separately.
If sin\alpha= 0, then cos\alpha is either 1 or -1.

What do your equations look like if sin\alpha= 0 and cos\alpha= 1?

What do your equations look like if sin\alpha= 0 and cos\alpha= -1?
 
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HallsofIvy, thanks.
HallsofIvy said:
What do your equations look like if sin\alpha= 0 and cos\alpha= 1?
2x_1=0 and 0=0 => x_1=0, x_2 could be any number
HallsofIvy said:
What do your equations look like if sin\alpha= 0 and cos\alpha= -1?
0=0 and -2x_2=0 => x_2=0, x_1 could be any number

I just try another solution.
Rewrite the equations:
(x_1cos\alpha + x_2sin\alpha) - x_1 = 0
(x_1sin\alpha - x_2cos\alpha) - x_2 = 0

Suppose x_1 = cos\frac{\alpha}{2}, x_2 = sin\frac{\alpha}{2}, then

cos\frac{\alpha}{2}cos\alpha + sin\frac{\alpha}{2}sin\alpha - cos\frac{\alpha}{2} = 0

cos\frac{\alpha}{2}sin\alpha - sin\frac{\alpha}{2}cos\alpha - sin\frac{\alpha}{2} = 0

It works!

I am wondering whether there is some general method to solve x_1, x_2 depending on \alpha or not.
 
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