Can you explain how vigorous vortex-ing can damage DNA?

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The discussion focuses on the mechanical forces involved in breaking chemical bonds, particularly in the context of DNA strands during vigorous vortexing. It explores how the varying speeds of different parts of a vortex can create forces that affect long molecules like DNA, potentially leading to bond breakage. The conversation raises questions about the collision rates and energy levels during vigorous vortexing, suggesting that these factors may contribute to the breaking of DNA strands. Additionally, the impact of vortexing on compact structures like chromosomes, which consist of DNA and proteins, is questioned, along with the possibility of protein breakage through vortexing rather than denaturation. The participants express surprise at the potential for vortexing to break such strong molecular bonds.
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I want to know what is happening at micro-level, how macroscopic tumbling of the solution can actually break a chemical bond?
 
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Mechanically - it is not different to what happens when you break the stick.
 
In breaking a stick it is easy to see what are the forces and how they are working. what are the forces involved in breaking of a DNA strand by vortexing. Do the collision rate and energy increase during vigorous vortexing of the solution?
 
Different parts of the vortex move at different speeds, DNA molecules are quite long, if different parts of the molecule move at different speeds, it means forces acting on the molecule.
 
Borek said:
Different parts of the vortex move at different speeds, DNA molecules are quite long, if different parts of the molecule move at different speeds, it means forces acting on the molecule.

That make sense.:smile:
 
Borek said:
Different parts of the vortex move at different speeds, DNA molecules are quite long, if different parts of the molecule move at different speeds, it means forces acting on the molecule.

DNA is a very long molecule but it become very small when packaged into chromosome. Chromosome is not only DNA but also protein packaged together. Do you think vigorous vortexing can break compact structure like chromosome? (Vigorous vortexing in usual sense)
 
I am quite surprised that vortexing can break any bond at all. DNA is an extraordinary long molecule .. that's why it is conceivable . Do protein break in this way? Any example of protein breakage by vortex (not denaturing which can occur because of foam formation during vortex-ing).
 

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