Can you help me solve this differential equation using laplace transforms?

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Homework Statement



Solve the differential equation using laplace transforms. Assume zero intial conditions and that the forcing functions are zero prior to t=0

x''(t) + 6x'(t) +8x(t)=sin3t

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The Attempt at a Solution



I took the laplace transform which I found to be after simplyfing

X(s)=-8s^2-57/(s^2+3^2)(s^2+6s)

after partial fraction decompistion and comparing coeffcients I found these equations

0=a+b+c+d
-8=6a+6b+6c
0= 9c
-57=54c+9d

When I plug that into Ax=b it gives me free variables. i am not sure if my logic is wrong or I just made some mistakes along the way. Any help would be gratly appreciated.

MEM33
 
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I just made it. Try to write the two polynomials as a factor of the roots like (s-r1)(s-r2)(s-r3)(s-r4).
I also think you made the transform wrong.
Btw, if when you factor the poly in the denominator you can get the part.frac coefficients like this:
\lim\limits_{s\rightarrow r_1}\{X(s)(s-r_1)\}
Can you see why?
 
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dikmikkel said:
I just made it. Try to write the two polynomials as a factor of the roots like (s-r1)(s-r2)(s-r3)(s-r4).
I also think you made the transform wrong.
Btw, if when you factor the poly in the denominator you can get the part.frac coefficients like this:
\lim\limits_{s\rightarrow r_1}\{X(s)(s-r_1)\}
Can you see why?
I found my mistake

Thanks!
 
MEM33 said:

Homework Statement



Solve the differential equation using laplace transforms. Assume zero intial conditions and that the forcing functions are zero prior to t=0

x''(t) + 6x'(t) +8x(t)=sin3t

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



I took the laplace transform which I found to be after simplyfing

X(s)=-8s^2-57/(s^2+3^2)(s^2+6s)

after partial fraction decompistion and comparing coeffcients I found these equations

0=a+b+c+d
-8=6a+6b+6c
0= 9c
-57=54c+9d

When I plug that into Ax=b it gives me free variables. i am not sure if my logic is wrong or I just made some mistakes along the way. Any help would be gratly appreciated.

MEM33

Is your expression supposed to be X(s) = -8s^2 -\frac{57}{(s^2+3^2)(s^2+6s)} \text{ or }<br /> X(s) = \frac{-8s^2 - 57}{(s^2+3^2)(s^2+6s)}?
Using standard rules the expression, as written, means the first one.

RGV
 
Ray Vickson said:
Is your expression supposed to be X(s) = -8s^2 -\frac{57}{(s^2+3^2)(s^2+6s)} \text{ or }<br /> X(s) = \frac{-8s^2 - 57}{(s^2+3^2)(s^2+6s)}?
Using standard rules the expression, as written, means the first one.

RGV
Sorry after re-working it my X(s) looks like 15/(s^2 + 3^2)(s +4)(s +2)

and my solution is X(t) = -.4cos(3t) +.5sin(3t) - .3exp(-4t) +.47exp(-2t)

Can anyone tell me if that is the correct solution?
 
i get (evaluated as decimal numbers):
-0.06\cos(3t)-0.003\sin(3t)+0.12e^{-2t}-0.06e^{-4t}
 
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