Can You Outpredict Paul the Octopus in the 2014 PF World Cup League?

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The forum discussion centers on predicting outcomes for the 2014 PF World Cup League, challenging participants to outperform Paul the Octopus. Users can vote on the winner and runner-up, with points awarded based on the accuracy of their predictions. Voting is open until midnight GMT on game days, and participants can change their votes, which nullifies previous ones. The scoring system rewards correct outcomes and scores, with specific point allocations detailed for various prediction scenarios.

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  • #181
26th june
Portugal v Ghana: 1-2
USA v Germany: 1-3
Korea Republic v Belgium: 0-2
Algeria - Russia: 2-1
 
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  • #182
26th june
Portugal v Ghana: 3-2
USA v Germany: 3-1
Korea Republic v Belgium: 0-3
Algeria - Russia: 1-1
 
  • #183
26th june

Portugal v Ghana: 2-3
USA v Germany: 1-4
Korea Republic v Belgium: 1-2
Algeria - Russia: 2-1

I hope I made it on time, but I doubt that
 
  • #184
26th june
Portugal v Ghana: 2-1
USA v Germany: 1-1
Korea Republic v Belgium: 0-3
Algeria - Russia: 1-1
 
  • #185
micromass said:
Algeria - Russia (26 June): 1 - 1
cristo: 1 - 0
micromass: 1 - 0
DH: 0 - 1
DennisN: 2 - 1
trollcast: 2 - 1
Matterwave: 1 - 1 +2
montadhar: 2 - 1
+2 against us all again, congratulations Matterwave!
 
  • #186
I'm going to catch up! :D
 
  • #187
Last 16 predictions:

Brazil v Chile: 4-1
Colombia v Uruguay: 1-0
Netherlands v Mexico: 2-0
Costa Rica v Greece: 1-0
France v Nigeria: 3-1
Germany v Algeria: 2-0
Argentina v Switzerland: 3-0
Belgium v USA: 2-1
 
  • #188
1-0 in all remaining matches, assuming the team names are sorted alphabetically.
 
  • #189
June 28th:
Brazil v Chile: 2-1
Colombia v Uruguay: 1-0

June 29th:
Netherlands v Mexico: 1-0
Costa Rica v Greece: 2-0
 
  • #190
Congratulations to DennisN for being the best one in the group stages!

Important!
In the following games, each of the following will get you 1 point:
  • Identifying correctly who goes through to the next round
  • Identifying the outcome correctly (win for Team A, win for Team B, draw), penalties do not count
  • Identifying the score correctly (for example 2 - 1), penalties do not count
So it is possible to gain 3 points for a game this round!

Note that if you predict a draw, you have to predict a winner too.
 
  • #191
June 28th:
Brazil v Chile: 3 - 1
Colombia v Uruguay: 1 - 1 (Uruguay wins)

June 29th:
Netherlands v Mexico: 2 - 1
Costa Rica v Greece: 2 - 0
 
  • #192
micromass said:
Congratulations to DennisN for being the best one in the group stages!

Important!
In the following games, each of the following will get you 1 point:
  • Identifying correctly who goes through to the next round
  • Identifying the outcome correctly (win for Team A, win for Team B, draw), penalties do not count
  • Identifying the score correctly (for example 2 - 1), penalties do not count
So it is possible to gain 3 points for a game this round!

Note that if you predict a draw, you have to predict a winner too.
This is a better idea than simply multiplying by 2 :)

How about a point for identifying each team's goals ? This way the number of points will be doubled from the group stage, and predicting the goals will become more significant.
 
  • #193
Round of 16 predictions:

Brazil v Chile: 4-3
Colombia v Uruguay: 2-0
Netherlands v Mexico: 1-1 Netherlands advances
Costa Rica v Greece: 1-1 Greece advances
France v Nigeria: 2-1
Germany v Algeria: 4-1
Argentina v Switzerland: 2-1
Belgium v USA: 2-2 USA advances
 
  • #194
montadhar said:
This is a better idea than simply multiplying by 2 :)

How about a point for identifying each team's goals ? This way the number of points will be doubled from the group stage, and predicting the goals will become more significant.

There might be too much emphasis on the goals then. It's not a bad idea, but let's keep it simple.
 
  • #195
micromass said:
Congratulations to DennisN for being the best one in the group stages!
Congrats, DennisN!
Important!
In the following games, each of the following will get you 1 point:
  • Identifying correctly who goes through to the next round
  • Identifying the outcome correctly (win for Team A, win for Team B, draw), penalties do not count
  • Identifying the score correctly (for example 2 - 1), penalties do not count
So it is possible to gain 3 points for a game this round!

Note that if you predict a draw, you have to predict a winner too.
I like it!
This gives the matches in the knockout stage a bit more weight than those in the group stage, it accounts for kicks from the mark to resolve ties, and at the same time it keeps things simple.
 
  • #196
D H said:
I like it!

Me too.
 
  • #197
June 28th:
Brazil v Chile: 3 - 2
Colombia v Uruguay: 1 - 1 Uruguay win on penalties
June 29th:
Netherlands v Mexico: 2 - 1
Costa Rica v Greece: 3 -1
 
  • #198
June 28th:
Brazil v Chile: 1-2
Colombia v Uruguay: 2-0
 
  • #199
micromass said:
Congratulations to DennisN for being the best one in the group stages!
Thanks, micromass and DH!

micromass said:
Important!
In the following games, each of the following will get you 1 point:
  • Identifying correctly who goes through to the next round
  • Identifying the outcome correctly (win for Team A, win for Team B, draw), penalties do not count
  • Identifying the score correctly (for example 2 - 1), penalties do not count
So it is possible to gain 3 points for a game this round!

Note that if you predict a draw, you have to predict a winner too.

That's cool. Regretfully I missed to make predictions for today, and I will post predictions for tomorrow later.
 
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  • #200
Sport commentators often seem to have a love of statistics, so I thought we could indulge ourselves with our own result table for the group stages:

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I hope the table is understandable, and that neither I nor Excel did make any mistakes :smile:. The outcome accuracies and result accuracies are calculated with respect to the number of actual votes (that is, blank votes are excluded from the calculation). A fun thing is that PhysicsGente has the top accuracies for both outcomes and results. If anyone finds any error, please PM me. I also attach the Excel sheet and picture to this post.

Another big thanks to micromass for managing this thread, and a good luck to everybody for the rest of the cup!
 

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  • #201
Wow! Very nice and beautiful work. I always love those statistics :-p

Too bad PhysicsGente made so few predictions, he would have been a worthy opponent for DennisN!
 
  • #202
And here are my predictions for tomorrow (I found it particularly hard to decide on the Netherlands - Mexico match):

June 29th:
Netherlands - Mexico: 2 - 2 (Netherlands wins)
Costa Rica - Greece: 2 - 1 (Costa Rica wins)
 
  • #203
At least I'm over 50% so...slightly better than random guessing...
 
  • #204
Matterwave said:
At least I'm over 50% so...slightly better than random guessing...
:smile: I hope people don't take my table too seriously :smile:. There's a lot of luck involved too IMO (and I never expected to be so fortunate as I have been).
 
  • #205
June 29th:
Netherlands v Mexico: 3 - 1
Costa Rica v Greece: 2 - 0
 
  • #206
DennisN said:
:smile: I hope people don't take my table too seriously :smile:. There's a lot of luck involved too IMO (and I never expected to be so fortunate as I have been).

I am exactly 50%, which means that I am basically a perfect random number generator.
 
  • #207
Wow, our outcome accuracy is way too low! I thought it would be much higher than that.
If someone picked the underdogs of every single match, they would still have very comparable (or higher) number of points than ours
 
  • #208
montadhar said:
Wow, our outcome accuracy is way too low! I thought it would be much higher than that.
If someone picked the underdogs of every single match, they would still have very comparable (or higher) number of points than ours

But draws are also possible. Draws do not happen as much as a team winning, but it definitely does skew the results.
 
  • #209
micromass said:
But draws are also possible. Draws do not happen as much as a team winning, but it definitely does skew the results.

Ahh yea, that is right. If outcomes were picked at random, and I predicted no draws for any match, and for a big enough sample, is the maximum I can get about 66% or 50% of the predictions ?

My apologies for making this into a maths thread :biggrin:
 
  • #210
montadhar said:
My apologies for making this into a maths thread :biggrin:

One should never apologize for that! :biggrin:
 

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