Cannot finish calculating a double integral with change of coordinates

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around evaluating a double integral of the function f(x,y) = x² / (x² + y²) over a specified region in the xy-plane. The problem involves a change of coordinates to simplify the integration process.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of the Jacobian for the change of coordinates and express concerns about the complexity of the integrand after the transformation. There is a suggestion to reconsider the function being integrated, with some participants questioning the correctness of the original function.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their attempts and expressing uncertainty about the next steps. Some guidance has been offered regarding alternative variable substitutions, but no consensus has been reached on how to proceed with the integral.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can use or the methods they can apply. There is an emphasis on exploring different approaches to the integral without arriving at a definitive solution.

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Homework Statement


Integrate:

\displaystyle f\left( x,y \right)=\frac{{{x}^{2}}}{{{x}^{2}}+{{y}^{2}}}

on the region:
\displaystyle D=\left\{ \left( x,y \right)\in {{\mathbb{R}}^{2}}:0\le x\le 1,{{x}^{2}}\le y\le 2-{{x}^{2}} \right\}

TIP: Use change of coordinates:

\displaystyle x=\sqrt{v-u}
\displaystyle y=v+u

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution



Alright, what I did was to sketch the two regions. After that I calculated the jacobian of the change of coordinates function:

\displaystyle g\left( u,v \right)=\left( \sqrt{v-u},v+u \right)

\displaystyle \left| Jg \right|=\frac{1}{\sqrt{v-u}}

So the new integral becomes

\displaystyle \int\limits_{0}^{1}{\int\limits_{u}^{1}{\frac{v-u}{v-u+{{\left( u+v \right)}^{2}}}\cdot \frac{1}{\sqrt{v-u}}dv}du}=\int\limits_{0}^{1}{\int\limits_{u}^{1}{\frac{\sqrt{v-u}}{v-u+{{\left( u+v \right)}^{2}}}dv}du}

And here I'm stuck. I don't know how to continue. I don't like the integrand. Any help?

Thanks!
 
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Hernaner28 said:

Homework Statement


Integrate:

\displaystyle f\left( x,y \right)=\frac{{{x}^{2}}}{{{x}^{2}}+{{y}^{2}}}

on the region: \displaystyle D=\left\{ \left( x,y \right)\in {{\mathbb{R}}^{2}}:0\le x\le 1,{{x}^{2}}\le y\le 2-{{x}^{2}} \right\}

TIP: Use change of coordinates:

\displaystyle x=\sqrt{v-u}\,,\quad\quad y=v+u

Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution



Alright, what I did was to sketch the two regions. After that I calculated the jacobian of the change of coordinates function:

\displaystyle g\left( u,v \right)=\left( \sqrt{v-u},v+u \right)

\displaystyle \left| Jg \right|=\frac{1}{\sqrt{v-u}}

So the new integral becomes \displaystyle\ \int\limits_{0}^{1}{\int\limits_{u}^{1}{\frac{v-u}{v-u+{{\left( u+v \right)}^{2}}}\cdot \frac{1}{\sqrt{v-u}}dv}du}=\int\limits_{0}^{1}{\int\limits_{u}^{1}{\frac{\sqrt{v-u}}{v-u+{{\left( u+v \right)}^{2}}}dv}du}

And here I'm stuck. I don't know how to continue. I don't like the integrand. Any help?

Thanks!
Yes, that integrand is a mess.

Your work all looks to be correct.

Are you sure your function is correct? \displaystyle \ f\left( x,y \right)=\frac{{{x}^{2}}}{{{x}^{2}}+{{y}}} would work out much more nicely.
 
Yes, I'm sure. It's \displaystyle f\left( x,y \right)=\frac{{{x}^{2}}}{{{x}^{2}}+{{y}^{2}}} and they suggest that change of coordinates.
 
So the new integral becomes

\int\limits_{0}^{1}{\int\limits_{u}^{1} {\frac{\sqrt{v-u}}{v-u+{{\left( u+v \right)}^{2}}}dv}du}

And here I'm stuck. I don't know how to continue. I don't like the integrand. Any help?

Thanks!

Suppose now you were given just that integral over that triangle you're integrating over. Can you make a change of variable to make it easier to integrate? What about now just:

w=v-u
z=u+v

No guarantees though ok. You gotta' just try it to get use to doing that if you're going to get good in math. :)
 
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