Can't figure out where to go with this (Centripital Acceleration)

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The discussion revolves around calculating the forces acting on a car as it passes over a circular hump. For part a, the correct approach involves determining the normal force by subtracting the centripetal force from the weight of the car, leading to a normal force of approximately 6668.6 N. In part b, the maximum speed before losing contact is calculated using the relationship between gravitational force and centripetal force, yielding a maximum speed of about 20.3 m/s. A clarification is made that the centripetal force is not independent but results from the net forces acting on the car, specifically the normal force and weight. Overall, the calculations and concepts discussed align with the principles of centripetal acceleration and forces in circular motion.
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An 1800 kg car passes over a hump in a road that follows the arc of a circle of radius 42 m.

a. What force does the road exert on the car as the car passes the highest point of the hump if the car travels at 16 m/s?

b. What is the maximum speed the car can have as it passes this highest point before losing contact with the road?

Now for my work

a.

F = ma

F = mv²/r

F = (1800)(16²)/42

F = 10971.4 N

I think that is horribly wrong in my opinion... and also I have no idea how to start question b. No pictures or anything either
 
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okay I did a little more work but I don't know if the concepts are correct

a. Force normal (from the road) would be equal to weight minus centripetal force


F = mg - mv²/r
F = (1800)(9.8) - (1800)(16²)/42

F = 6668.6 N

b.weight = centripetal force

mg = mv²/r

v = sqrt(mgr/m)
v = sqrt(gr)
v = sqrt(9.8*42)
v = 20.3 m/s

someone want to confirm this work if I am going the right way?
 
I believe you have the correct answers. Only one thing I'd point out. There isn't an independent centripetal force... The sum of the forces acting on the object results in a net force that is centripetal. Hope I don't cause any confusion. Just wanted to point out that it is the normal force acting with gravity, that results in the centripetal force. I'd have written the first equation as:

mg-F_n = ma_y

This is just the sum of the forces in the y direction, taking downward as positive. The only two forces acting in the y direction here are the normal force and the weight.

And then, since it is moving in a circle the acceleration is centripetal... so you know acceleration is v^2/r

mg-F_n=\frac{mv^2}{R}

and then solve for F_n as you did.
 
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okay thanks for the reply
 
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