Cantilever Pipe Assembly - Statics

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The discussion centers on the installation of a horizontal cantilever pipe connected to a vertical pipe via a T-connection, with concerns about the need for additional support due to bending stress and deflection. The calculated moment at the cantilever's base is -95.922 lb*ft, and the bending stress was initially miscalculated but later corrected to 401.52 psi. Despite the stress being below 0.6 times the yield stress, the consensus leans towards installing a vertical support for safety, especially considering external conditions like vapor flow. Participants emphasized the importance of accurate calculations, including factors for wall thickness and deflection limits. Overall, while the stress calculations seem acceptable, additional support is recommended for structural integrity.
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To simplify my situation, I am installing a horizontal cantilever pipe (30” length, 3” nominal diameter) which will be connected to a vertical pipe (3” nom diameter, acting as the wall) by a T-connection. See the diagram below. At the end of the cantilever the pipe bends up at 90 degrees for 12”. At the top of the vertical pipe (at the end of the cantilever) will be a device (weight approx. 10 Lb = 4.53592 kg). The cantilever assembly pipe is most likely carbon steel, thickness 0.2159” (based on a 3” nominal diameter steel pipe schedule 40).

What I want to know is given these conditions, do I need to install a vertical support (under point B) for the extended pipe or would the pipe hold fine here? I’ve calculated the moment at point A as -95.922 lb*ft. If you look at the FBD you can see how I modeled the problem. I summed the forces of the Mass (M) and the vertical piece of pipe (MBC).

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@Mech_Engineer To calculate the stress, could I model it as a cantilever beam with end-loading? is there a different equation that I would have to use to include the pipe's weight and the fact that it's a cylindrical tube?

Stress = (F*L)(h/2)/I
 
Not sure where I'm going wrong I calculated the bending stress (Stress = My/I) and I got 57808.827 lb*ft2.

Note: I changed the weight on the end of the beam, so the moment I calculated is 58.1625 lb*ft
 
I think you just have to be careful about your units, the units of the result should be force/area (psi or equivalent). When I assume 1/4" wall thickness for the pipe, the result would be about 11 ksi (see calculation here).

Another important thing to keep in mind will be max deflection and first vibration mode. Even if the stress seems acceptable, this kind of application usually has limitation on acceptable deflection and vibration as well.
 
Thanks for the tips. My answer above actually was a typo my answer is 401.52 psi. (remember I changed the weight at the end so my moment is only 58.162)

Why does your equation include the pipe's length (30 inch)?
 
NewEngineer said:
Thanks for the tips. My answer above actually was a typo my answer is 401.52 psi. (remember I changed the weight at the end so my moment is only 58.162)
I hadn't seen that you changed your moment load, I updated the calculation here (it turns out there was an order of operations error in the second moment of area as well): calculation link. Is your pipe wall thickness about 0.34"?

NewEngineer said:
Why does your equation include the pipe's length (30 inch)?
Good catch, that was supposed to be 3 inches (the diameter of the pipe). The pipe diameter divided by two (a.k.a. the radius) gives you the neutral axis distance for the stress calculation.

I need to be more rigorous and always be on the look out for a missed factor of 2 and factor of 10!
 
According to engineeringtoolbox.com, a 40 schedule steel pipe with nominal pipe size of 3" has a wall thickness of 0.2159 inch and a weight of 7.58 lb/ft. I should have mentioned this in the original post, sorry bout that.

Anyway, even with my bending stress calculated at below 0.6*yield Stress I think I am still planning to install a support for the structure. I haven't calculated the deflection, but given that the assembly will be outside and have vapor flowing through the pipes I think it may be the safer option.
 
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