Capacitance in a Cylinder: Which Direction is the Voltage Calculated?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the calculation of voltage in a coaxial capacitor configuration, specifically when the inner cylinder has a negative charge and the outer cylinder has a positive charge. Participants explore how the direction of voltage calculation is affected by the signs of the charges involved.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that in typical coaxial cable problems, the voltage is calculated from the inner cylinder to the outer cylinder, but questions whether this remains true when the charge configuration is reversed.
  • Another participant suggests that voltage should be calculated in a way that results in a positive value, implying that the integral should be taken from the outer cylinder to the inner cylinder when the inner cylinder is negatively charged.
  • A participant seeks clarification on the integral limits for voltage calculation, expressing confusion over the expected result versus the answer key.
  • One participant points out that the logarithmic expressions for voltage differ only by a sign, indicating a mathematical relationship rather than a conceptual error.
  • A later reply acknowledges a mistake in calculations related to the sign of the charge, leading to a correction in the expression for voltage.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the correct limits for voltage calculation based on charge signs, and there is no consensus on the interpretation of the answer key. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of charge sign on voltage direction.

Contextual Notes

Participants rely on specific assumptions about charge configurations and the mathematical treatment of voltage, which may not be universally applicable without further clarification on definitions and conventions used in the context of capacitance.

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Hi everyone

In most problems I've seen involving capacitance of a coaxial cable, there is an inner cylinder of radius a with +Q charge and and an outer cylinder of radius b with -Q charge. The voltage is calculated from a to b. However, in this problem the inner cylinder is -Q and the outer is +Q. In this case, would I still find the voltage from a to b, or would I find the voltage from b to a? The answer key suggests that the voltage is calculated from a to b, but I'm not sure why.
 
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Hi,

You should calculate the voltage in that way that produces a positive voltage. The cause is capacitance always is a positive number. If the inner cylinder has -Q charge, the integral for voltage should be made from b to a.

I apologize for my english. I hope this can be clear for you.
 
Ok, so if I'm finding the voltage from b to a, then I need to calculate the integral of E dr from a to b? The answer of the integral is then [q/(2*pi*height*epsilon_0)]*ln(a/b). This seems right to me (unless I've made some simple mistake inbetween), yet the book says it should be ln(b/a) instead.
 
ln (a/b)=-ln(b/a)

It´s only a matter of sign
 
Turns out I had made a simple mistake in my calculations. Instead of [q/(2*pi*height*epsilon_0)]*ln(a/b) I should have written [-q/(2*pi*height*epsilon_0)]*ln(a/b) because the charge of the inner cylinder is negative. Thanks for helping me realize my careless mistake.
 

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