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The discussion revolves around calculating the charge of three capacitors connected in series. Initial charges for individual and paired capacitors are provided, with specific values for C1, C1 and C2, and C1 and C3. Participants suggest using the equivalent capacitance formula for series capacitors and emphasize the need to derive equations for each configuration to find individual capacitances. The key insight is that the voltage remains constant across all configurations, allowing for cancellation in calculations. Ultimately, the focus is on finding the charge when all three capacitors are connected in series.
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Suppose we have 3 capacitors, C1, C2, and C3.

If C1 is connected to a battery it's charge is 30.8 microC. C1 is disconnected and discharged.

If C1 and C2 are connected in series to the same battery, their charge is 23.1 microC. Both are disconnected and discharged.

If C1 and C3 are connected in series their charge is 25.2 microC. All 3 are disconnected and discharged.


Now, if all 3 are connected in series to the same what is the resulting charge?


Ive tried so many different ways using the formula for series capacitors and Q=CV and I've had no luck solving this problem.

There must be some rule (or trick) I am missing involving combing C12 and C13 that I am completely missing. Can anyone offer any insight into solving this problem?
 
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what do you mean treid all sorts of ways using the series capacitors and Q=VC?

did you use \frac{1}{C_{eq}}=\frac{1}{C_1}+\frac{1}{C_2}?

did you get all the three equations?
(so you could calculate the forth)

write them here, let's see what's wrong with them.
 
Well you would have

\frac{1}{C_{eq}}=\frac{1}{C_1}+\frac{1}{C_2}

and
\frac{1}{C_{eq}}=\frac{1}{C_1}+\frac{1}{C_3}
and finally
\frac{1}{C_{eq}}=\frac{1}{C_1}+\frac{1}{C_2}+\frac{1}{C_3}


but how could you find the final charge without using a voltage?
 
right, so you got 30.8*10^{-6}=C_1V

and 23.1*10^{-6}=C_{eq_1}V

and 25.2*10^{-6}=C_{eq_2}V

you should be able to find C_1, C_2, and C_3 with these equations (they all depend on the voltage, but because the fourth eq. should use the same voltage, it cancels out...)
 
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