Carnot refrigerator cost problem

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To determine the cost of making two kilograms of ice at 0° C using a Carnot refrigerator, the calculations must focus on the heat transfer and work involved. The initial calculation for the heat removed (Qc) was based on three kilograms of water, but it should be adjusted to two kilograms, resulting in Qc of 670,000 J. Using the Carnot efficiency equations, the work (W) required is calculated to be approximately 80,000 J. To find the cost, convert the work from Joules to kilowatt-hours, knowing that 1 kWh equals 3,600,000 J, and then multiply by the cost of electricity at ten cents per kWh. The final cost can be derived from these calculations, ensuring the correct amount of ice is considered.
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Homework Statement


Three kilograms of liquid water at 0° C is put into the freezer compartment of a Carnot refrigerator. The temperature of the compartment is -13.5° C, and the temperature of the kitchen is 24.5° C. If the cost of electrical energy is ten cents per kilowatt · hour, how much does it cost to make two kilograms of ice at 0° C?


Homework Equations


COP= Qc/W , Qc/Qh=TL/Th , Q=mL L=3.35 x 10^5 j/kg , Qh= W+ Qc, 3,600,000 = 1 kilowatt hour


The Attempt at a Solution


I used the formula Q=mL to solve for Qc, because this is the heat that needs to be moved to the hot reservoir, got an answer of Qc=1005000J. I then used Qc/Qh = TL/Th to solve for Qh came out to be 1149885.584j. I then used the Qh=W+Qc to solve for W, which equaled 144885.584j. I then solved for the COP = 6.937. I did convert temp values to K. I'm lost after this point I need to know how to come up with the cost.
 
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RockJockey said:

Homework Statement


Three kilograms of liquid water at 0° C is put into the freezer compartment of a Carnot refrigerator. The temperature of the compartment is -13.5° C, and the temperature of the kitchen is 24.5° C. If the cost of electrical energy is ten cents per kilowatt · hour, how much does it cost to make two kilograms of ice at 0° C?


Homework Equations


COP= Qc/W , Qc/Qh=TL/Th , Q=mL L=3.35 x 10^5 j/kg , Qh= W+ Qc, 3,600,000 = 1 kilowatt hour


The Attempt at a Solution


I used the formula Q=mL to solve for Qc, because this is the heat that needs to be moved to the hot reservoir, got an answer of Qc=1005000J.
The problem statement says that you only need to make 2 kg of ice. Even though you put 3 kg of water in the freezer, you only need to make 2 kg of ice (the other 1 kg can remain as water). :-p So you'll have to redo your Qc calculation.
I then used Qc/Qh = TL/Th to solve for Qh came out to be 1149885.584j. I then used the Qh=W+Qc to solve for W, which equaled 144885.584j. I then solved for the COP = 6.937.
What I would have done is first solved for the COP based on Thot and Tcold. Once you have the COP, you can easily solve for the work W using your COP= Qc/W formula. My way is a little easier, but your method works just fine too. :approve: But either way, you'll have to redo the calculations using only 2 kg of ice (instead of 3) this time.
I'm lost after this point I need to know how to come up with the cost.
Once you find the work in Joules, you have to convert that to kilowatt · hours.

Joules are a measure of energy. kilowatt · hours are also a measure of energy (just different units).

Here is a hint. 1 Watt = 1 Joule/second. :smile:
 
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