Center of Mass and Mass Moment of Inertia

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The discussion revolves around determining the center of mass and mass moment of inertia of a bicycle crank using various physical tools, including masses, springs, a stopwatch, and a ruler. Participants are exploring how to approach the problem and the principles involved.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using conservation of energy and oscillatory motion to find the required quantities. Questions are raised about how to utilize the given materials to determine mass and moment of inertia, and whether there are multiple methods to approach the problem.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants offering suggestions and seeking clarification on the proposed methods. There is a recognition of the need for further elaboration on how to apply the conservation of energy in this context, and some participants express uncertainty about the next steps.

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Participants are encouraged to refer to their physics texts for relevant formulas and concepts, indicating that they may be working under specific homework constraints that require them to derive results independently.

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Homework Statement


Using masses, springs a stop watch and ruler, determine the location of the center of mass and mass moment of inertia about an axis passing through the center of mass of a bicycle crank.



The Attempt at a Solution



I've been staring at this problem for a while now and I have no idea where to start. Any help would be much appreciated. I have included a link with what the bike crank looks like.

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Hi ACE_99! :smile:

How about using conservation of energy …

suspend the crank so that it hits the spring. :wink:
 
To start how would you actually use what you are given to find the mass of the object?

Is there more than one way?

Given we often can treat objects as point masses concentrated at their center of mass for some problems can you think of any position dependent effect of mass or weight?

As to moment of inertia... what behavior depends on the moment of inertia (you also have a stop watch).

Given the spring (of which presumably you know the spring constants) you have the ability to invoke various types of (note plural types) oscillatory motion the period of which you can time. What oscillatory motion depends on one of the quantities you wish to find?
 
tiny-tim said:
Hi ACE_99! :smile:

How about using conservation of energy …

suspend the crank so that it hits the spring. :wink:

Thanks for replies guys. With your method tiny-tim, I'm still not sure how I could use this to find what I'm looking for. Could you elaborate a bit?

jambaugh said:
To start how would you actually use what you are given to find the mass of the object?

Is there more than one way?

Given we often can treat objects as point masses concentrated at their center of mass for some problems can you think of any position dependent effect of mass or weight?

As to moment of inertia... what behavior depends on the moment of inertia (you also have a stop watch).

Given the spring (of which presumably you know the spring constants) you have the ability to invoke various types of (note plural types) oscillatory motion the period of which you can time. What oscillatory motion depends on one of the quantities you wish to find?

Reading through your questions got my mind thinking but I'm still stumped. Any more helpful ideas?
 
ACE_99 said:
With your method tiny-tim, I'm still not sure how I could use this to find what I'm looking for. Could you elaborate a bit?

Come off it!

You have to do some work! :rolleyes:

How would you use conservation of energy (and include the moment of inertia) if the crank hit the spring?
 
Go through your physics text and look for formulas which depend on the specific quantity you want to find. Can you think of a way to exemplify one of those formulas?
 

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