Centripetal accel - airplane flying in a horizontal circle

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The problem involves an airplane flying in a horizontal circle at a specified speed, with a focus on centripetal acceleration and the forces acting on the pilot. The original poster is particularly interested in determining the minimum radius of the circular path while ensuring the centripetal acceleration does not exceed six times the acceleration due to gravity.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • The original poster attempts to relate centripetal acceleration to the radius and speed of the airplane, but initially misinterprets the factor of 6 as a simple multiplier rather than as 6g. Some participants clarify this misunderstanding.
  • Questions arise regarding the feasibility of the calculated radius and the implications of experiencing 6g during such maneuvers.
  • Participants discuss the necessity of tilting the airplane to maintain circular motion and explore the relationship between tilt angle and centripetal acceleration.

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There is a mention of the gravitational constant being approximated as 10 m/s² instead of the more precise value of 9.81 m/s². Additionally, the original poster has not provided any angles in their initial setup, which may affect the analysis of forces involved.

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Homework Statement



An airplane is flying in a horizontal circle at a speed of 116 m/s. The 77.0 kg pilot does not want his centripetal acceleration to exceed 6.00 times free-fall acceleration.

(a) What is the minimum radius of the circular path? (in meters)

(b) At this radius, what is the net force that maintains circular motion exerted on the pilot by the seat belts, the friction between him and the seat, and so forth?


Homework Equations



i'm more concentrated on part A.
this is what i have so far:

F=ma=m(v^2/R)=mG

v=116m/s
G=6

so then v^2/R=6, 116^2/R=6

so then
R=2242.7

it says my answer is incorrect.
i don't see my mistake though.


and for part B, would it be 0?

PART A: SOLVED. but i still need help with part B.
Fnet=ma, but i don't think that one works in this case...
 
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so then v^2/R=6, 116^2/R=6
but wait, the problem states "6.00 times free-fall acceleration", which means an acceleration of 6g or 6 * 9.81 m/s2, not simply 6.
 
Astronuc said:
but wait, the problem states "6.00 times free-fall acceleration", which means an acceleration of 6g or 6 * 9.81 m/s2, not simply 6.

ahh yes! WOW i must be blind. thanks!

now for part B...
 
Does it not seem a tad unlikely that a pilot doing a turn of 2.247 km radius (thats more than 1.2 miles!) would be pulling a body-bending 6g ?
Is the 9.81m/s/s value of g included in the given information you have to solve this?
(OK - I see he got there, but some answers do make for great mental pictures of extreme stuff :smile: )
 
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GTrax said:
Does it not seem a tad unlikely that a pilot doing a turn of 2.247 km radius (thats more than 1.2 miles!) would be pulling a body-bending 6g ?
Is the 9.81m/s/s value of g included in the given information you have to solve this?
(OK - I see he got there, but some answers do make for great mental pictures of extreme stuff :smile: )

for g, instead of 9.8 we can just use 10.

but anyways i do see what you mean :)
 
anyone?? :'[
 
Pilot cannot fly in the horizontal circle unless he tilts the plane toward the center. The angle of tilt can be found by tan(theta) = v^2/Rg. Then you can find the rest of the values.
 
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rl.bhat said:
Pilot cannot fly in the horizontal circle unless he tilts the plane toward the center. The angle of tilt can be found by tan(theta) = v^2/Rg. Then you can find the rest of the values.

he didnt give us any angles
 
In part a you have found the velocity by using 6g = v^2/R.
The angle of tilt can be found by tan(theta) = v^2/Rg.
Hence v^2/R = g*tan(theta). Substitute in the first equation, we get 6g = g*tan(theta)
or tan(theta) =6 or theta = tan^-1(6) = 80.5 degree.
When the pilot is flying with this tilt, the normal component of his weight(R) = mgcos(theta) = 77*10*cos(80.5) N. Centripetal force (F)= 6g = 60N. mu = F/R
 

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