Centripetal acceleration of a vehicle on banked circular arc

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The discussion focuses on calculating the coefficient of friction for a van navigating a banked circular bend with a radius of 75m and a banking angle of arctan(1/3). The initial calculation yielded a coefficient of friction (μ) of 0.61, which was incorrect, as the expected value is 0.40. Participants suggested resolving forces vertically to account for the net centripetal acceleration, leading to the correct calculation. After applying this method, the correct coefficient of friction was determined to be 0.40. The conversation highlights the importance of accurately resolving forces in physics problems involving circular motion.
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Homework Statement


A van is moving on a horizontal circular bend in the road of radius 75m. The bend is banked at arctan(1/3) to the horizontal. The maximum speed at which the van can be driven around the bend without slipping is 25m/s. Calculate the coefficient of friction between the road surface and the tyres of the van.

Homework Equations


centripetal force = mv2/r
Friction ≤ μR

The Attempt at a Solution


See attached diagram. At the maximum speed F=μR. Resolving perpendicular to the plane gives:

R = mgcosθ
∴ F = μmgcosθ

Resolving in a direction perpendicular to the weight gives:

Rsinθ + Fcosθ = mv2/r
mgsinθcosθ + μmgcos2θ = mv2/r

Solving for μ gives:

μ = [(v2/r)-gsinθcosθ]/[gcos2θ]

And substituting the values gives μ=0.61. This is apparently incorrect (the answer should be μ=0.40). I cannot see what I have done wrong.

Any hints would be greatly appreciated!
 

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Zatman said:
R = mgcosθ
That would be true if there were no net acceleration perpendicular to the surface. But you know there is a net centripetal acceleration, and that is not parallel to the surface, therefore it has a component perpendicular to the surface.
Try resolving vertically instead.
 
Ah, yes that makes sense. I got 0.40 now.

Thank you!
 
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