Centripetal Force, Gravity and Normal

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The discussion centers on calculating the normal force at point Q in a circular motion scenario, where centripetal force and gravitational force interact. The initial attempt to find the normal force incorrectly combined these forces using vector addition. The correct approach involves applying the conservation of energy principle, leading to the realization that the normal force equals the centripetal force minus twice the gravitational force. This results in the equation Fn = Fc = mv'^2/r = mv^2/r - 2mg, which aligns with the book's answer. Understanding the energy conversion from kinetic to potential energy is crucial in solving this problem.
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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


F_{c} = \frac{mv^{2}}{r}


The Attempt at a Solution



I think the normal force would be the magnitude of vector sum of centripetal force and gravitational force. So I did:

N = \sqrt{(\frac{mv^{2}}{r})^{2} + (mg)^{2}}

However, it isn't one of the answer choice. The actual answer is (c), and I have got no clue why it is (c).

I could imagine why answer is:
(a) Since mg is perpendicular to point Q, normal force is only \frac{mv^{2}}{r}
(b) if calculated from the highest tip of the circle...

but where does 2mg comes from!?

Thank in advance.
 
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The -2mg part originally comes from the KE converted to PE.

Try writing an equation for the energy of the ball at Q.
 
Oh thanks, so we approach this problem using conservation of energy.

let v = initial velocity

We have this at Point Q:
KE = KE' + PE..

1/2mv^2 = 1/2mv'^2 + mgr.

mv^2/r - 2mg = mv'^2/r

We also have Force at point Q:
Fn = Fc = mv'^2/r = mv^2/r - 2mg
 
Yes that how I got the book answer.
 
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