Centripetal Forces and the Bucket in a Circle

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The discussion revolves around centripetal forces in the context of a bucket filled with water being swung in a circular motion. The original poster questions the conditions under which the water would remain in the bucket, particularly focusing on the forces acting on the system when the bucket is at the top of its circular path.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the dynamics of the bucket and water during free fall, questioning the effects of acceleration and centripetal force on the water's retention in the bucket. They also discuss the implications of the center of mass in relation to the forces acting on the system.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants raising interesting points about the relationship between the bucket's motion and the behavior of the water. Some practical considerations have been introduced, and there is a shared curiosity about the implications of these dynamics.

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There are indications that some aspects of the discussion may extend beyond the current course material, suggesting a potential gap in foundational knowledge regarding centripetal forces and motion.

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I was watching a video on centripetal forces, and at one point in the video, the instructor poses a question where he shows a bucket filled with water which requires an Fnet of 3N towards the center to keep the water in the bucket.
At one point in the video (please seek to 6:09)


he says that the water will fall out of the bucket at the top because there is an Fg of 4N, but if there is no force of tension and the bucket and water are both accelerating at 9.8m/s/s (assuming down is +ve) then will the bucket not stay in the water?

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Well, presumably when the bucket hits the ground the water will not stay in the bucket.
 
paisiello2 said:
Well, presumably when the bucket hits the ground the water will not stay in the bucket.
I guess so, but while the bucket is in the air, it should be accelerating downwards w/ the water @ 9.8m/s/s, no? Meaning the water stays in the bucket?
 
You make an interesting point, but there are some practical considerations.
If the bucket is at least half full, the surface water will be closer to the axis of rotation than will the bucket's CoM. This means it requires less centripetal acceleration, so will enter free fall before the bucket does.
 
haruspex said:
You make an interesting point, but there are some practical considerations.
If the bucket is at least half full, the surface water will be closer to the axis of rotation than will the bucket's CoM. This means it requires less centripetal acceleration, so will enter free fall before the bucket does.
Interesting, I'm assuming that this is beyond the scope of my course-- cool regardless.

CoM = Center of Mass, correct?
 
AAAA said:
Interesting, I'm assuming that this is beyond the scope of my course-- cool regardless.

CoM = Center of Mass, correct?
Yes.
 

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