Other CERN vs Fermilab: Which is Better for Theoretical Physicists?

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The discussion centers on evaluating the best facilities for theoretical physicists based on criteria such as job stability, access to new research, freedom of work, quality of colleagues, technology and equipment, and pay. It emphasizes the importance of completing educational milestones, including high school, college, graduate school, and multiple postdocs, before making decisions about career paths. The conversation highlights the competitive nature of securing permanent positions in theoretical physics, particularly at prestigious institutions like CERN and Fermilab, and notes that many factors influencing career choices are beyond individual control. Additionally, it suggests that there are more options available beyond just these two facilities.
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As a theoretical physicist, what is a better facility to work at? (based on the following criteria)

Job stability
Access to new research
Freedom of work (Any field)
Better colleagues
Better Tech/Equipment
Better pay (not that important)
 
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This is like deciding whether you want to pitch for the Red Sox or the Yankees while still it little league.

Finish high school, then college, then graduate school, then one or two postdocs, and then we will talk.
 
Vanadium 50 said:
This is like deciding whether you want to pitch for the Red Sox or the Yankees while still it little league.

Finish high school, then college, then graduate school, then one or two postdocs, and then we will talk.
Should I really have two?
also I was wondering if anyone worked there and had reviews but I see what you mean
thanks!
 
McWonald said:
Should I really have two?
It is very hard to get a permanent position after one postdoc, especially in theoretical physics, especially at CERN and Fermilab.

Anyway, that decision will depend on so many factors, most of them are out of your influence. Don't worry about that now. Also, there is much more than just CERN and Fermilab.
 
mfb said:
It is very hard to get a permanent position after one postdoc, especially in theoretical physics, especially at CERN and Fermilab.

Anyway, that decision will depend on so many factors, most of them are out of your influence. Don't worry about that now. Also, there is much more than just CERN and Fermilab.

I understand, thanks anyways
 
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