CFM converted to m/s wind speed

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The discussion revolves around calculating the wind speed in meters per second (m/s) produced by two drum fans in a solid tube, as well as considerations regarding fan efficiency and performance characteristics. The scope includes theoretical calculations, practical applications, and potential design modifications.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks assistance in calculating the wind speed at the end of a tube with two fans producing 19,000 CFM each.
  • Another participant provides a rough calculation suggesting a flow rate of 40,000 ft/min based on the fans' output and the tube's cross-sectional area, but notes that real-world factors like pressure changes and drag complicate the situation.
  • A different participant calculates a velocity of approximately 2.5 m/s, emphasizing that this is an ideal scenario and actual results may vary due to flow characteristics.
  • Concerns are raised about the effects of using two fans, including the need for one fan to rotate in the opposite direction to avoid swirl and the necessity of understanding the fans' performance curves for accurate predictions.
  • Another participant questions the practicality of calculations without the performance curves and suggests contacting a fan company for detailed specifications.
  • There is a suggestion to consider using a single fan instead of two, with a goal of achieving higher velocities (7-9 m/s) while maintaining a power limit of 2 HP, potentially by using a smaller tube.

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Participants express differing views on the calculations and implications of using multiple fans, with no consensus reached on the best approach or the accuracy of the calculations presented.

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Limitations include the lack of specific fan performance curves, which are critical for accurate calculations, and the potential for various factors affecting airflow that are not fully accounted for in the discussions.

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Can you help with this question? I have a solid tube 10'D x 5'L with 2 42" drum fans in one end producing about 19,000CFM each. I need to know what the velocity will be at the end of the tube in M/S. Also, will the fans be more efficient if there is a seal around the opening where the fan housings are at?
 
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As a 'ballpark' figure if the fans are putting out 19,000 ft^3/min and that volume is going through a 0.5 ft^2 hole (ie pi * 5/12^2) then you will get 19,000 ft^3/min / 0.5ft^2 = 40,000 ft/min flow

In reality pressure changes, drag, back-pressure and non-linear flow will complicate matters
 
40,000 ft/min? Wholly mackerel! That's about M=.6

How about this:

v=\frac{Q}{a}

v=\frac{2*19,000}{.25*\pi*10^2}

v = 484 \frac{ft}{min}

v = 2.5 \frac{m}{s}

Like was mentioned though, the doubling up of fans will have an affect on the flow characteristics so this would be the absolute best you would ever see. In reality you would see less than this.
 
Oops - a bit of a Spinal-Tap stonehenge there

I mean, who decided that ' was feet and " was inches ?
 
If your doubling up your fans, pressure will nearly double but the volume will remain the same (with respect the performance curve), so you then need to work out a new fan performance curve. Also the one fan will need to be rotating clockwise the other anti-clockwise to avoid swirl.

Unless you have the performance curves for the fans, the you will just be guessing or your need to test them.
 
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Turv said:
If your doubling up your fans, pressure will nearly double but the volume will remain the same, so you then need to work out a new fan performance curve. Also the one fan will need to be rotating clockwise the other anti-clockwise to avoid swirl.

Unless you have the performance curves for the fans, the you will just be guessing or your need to test them.
Would you recommend using a single fan instead of the 2 42" units and if so, what size would I have to use in order to match the output of the 2 units? My goal is to increase the velocity to approximately 7-9 m/s using no more than 2 HP. Maybe using a smaller tube would accomplish this?
 
Without the fan curves it is really pointless going through calculations, because they may not do that size, contact a fan company and give them the details you require.
 
mgb_phys said:
Oops - a bit of a Spinal-Tap stonehenge there

I mean, who decided that ' was feet and " was inches ?

Excellent reference.
 

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