Changing the Order of Integration for a Double Integral: How Do I Evaluate This?

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The discussion revolves around changing the order of integration for a double integral involving the function \(\sqrt{x}\cos(x)\). The original integral is set up with limits from \(0\) to \(3\) for \(y\) and from \(y\) to \(9\) for \(x\).

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the change of order of integration and the resulting complexity in evaluating the integral. There are questions about the correctness of the new limits and the methods for integrating the resulting expressions, particularly concerning the use of power series.

Discussion Status

Some participants express uncertainty about the integration process after changing the order, while others confirm the validity of the change. There is a recognition of the challenges posed by the integral's complexity, with suggestions to consider alternative methods like power series.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem may be worded strangely, leading to confusion about the expectations for the solution. There is also mention of the specific area bounded by the lines involved in the integration.

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Homework Statement



Looks like I'm back with another question already :frown: I need to change the order of integration for this double integral and then evaluate it, but I get to a point where I'm not sure what to do.

Homework Equations



\int^3_{0} \int^9_{y} \sqrt{x}cos(x) dx dy

The Attempt at a Solution



With the changed order of integration it needs two integrals added together, this is what I came up with:

\int^3_{0} \int^x_{0} \sqrt{x}cos(x) dy dx + \int^9_{3} \int^3_{0} \sqrt{x}cos(x) dy dx

And I planned to work them both out separately, but didn't get too far with the first one:

= \int^3_{0} \left[y\sqrt{x}cos(x)\right]^{x}_{0} dx

= \int^3_{0} x\sqrt{x}cos(x) dx

I'm not sure if I've made a mistake getting here, but it looks like I need to integrate x\sqrt{x}cos(x) and there doesn't seem to be an easy way to do that at all.
 
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Hi Refraction! :smile:

Your change of order looks fine.

The only problem is how to integrate x1/2cosx or x3/2cosx … I don't know any way of doing that (other than using power series). :redface:
 
That's what I was thinking as well, we've never done anything like that in this class before, and it's only supposed to be a small question so I'm not sure why it's like that.

The only thing I can think of is it maybe meaning to change the order and just leave it like that, but it's worded a bit strangely then. Thanks anyway!
 
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Hi Refraction,

How did you change the order?(there was a y ?)

For the computation of the integral, the only way I can see is with power series too...
 
The line was x = y in the original question, I just used it as y = x for when the order is reversed (so it's in the first half of the reversed order integral now).
 
:confused: I still don't understand...
 
Well the area bounded by the lines looks something like this:

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So with the reversed order of integration (dy dx) for the first double integral, R1, the inner integral is from y = 0 to y = x, and the outer integral is from x = 0 to x = 3.
 
I got it. thank you very much!
 
Ah, Grasshopper. The student has become the master!
 
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:biggrin: Woohoo! :biggrin:
 

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