Chaos in flocks & schools of animals

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The discussion centers on the concept of complex behavior in nature, exemplified by the organized movements of flocks of birds and schools of fish, which arise from simple rules and chaotic interactions. A documentary highlights this phenomenon, drawing parallels to mathematical concepts like the Mandelbrot set. The inquiry focuses on whether simple rules have been identified for specific species, suggesting that such rules could enable the simulation of these behaviors through cellular automata and neural networks. The conversation references existing swarm simulators and emphasizes the importance of emergence in understanding complex systems, with John Conway's "Game of Life" cited as a key example. The notion of chaotic behavior is debated, with some participants questioning its necessity in these systems.
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A documentary on chaos talked about the macro behavior of flocks of birds and schools of fish. They appear organized, but without central command. The documentary said that this is an example of complex behavior arising from simple rules plus chaos. It compared them to the Mandelbrot set arising from the simple rule ##z=z^2+c##

My question: do we have examples of the simple rule discovered for any species?

If yes, then we might be able to recreate that behavior with a simulation based on cellular automata and neural nets. Perhaps that too has already been done?
 
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You want to consider emergence:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergence

I'm not sure that chaotic behavior is necessary.

A definition I use because I dealt with lots of programmers: complex systems derived by iterating simple rules on a set of objects -- iterating a vast number of times.
An example of emergence is John Conway's 'Game of Life' -- this is a great way to understand the concept, look at the graphics, first.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conway's_Game_of_Life
 
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