Charged Sphere sliced, force required to keep them as they were

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The discussion centers on calculating the minimum force required to hold two halves of a uniformly charged metallic sphere together after being sliced. The concept of "electric pressure" is introduced, defined as electrostatic force per unit area, leading to the derived formula for force based on charge density and cross-sectional area. Participants debate whether traditional methods, such as Coulomb's law and properties of conductors, can be applied to solve the problem without understanding electric fields. It is suggested that using electric field relations simplifies the calculation significantly. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the importance of grasping electric field concepts for effective problem-solving in electrostatics.
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A metallic sphere of radius R is cut in two parts along a plane whose minimum distance from the sphere's centre is h and the sphere is uniformly charged by a total electric charge Q. What minimum force is necessary to hold the two parts of the sphere together?

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The solution which we were "encouraged" to come up was using a term called "electric pressure", defined as the electrostatic force per unit area. By multiplying it with the base area of the cross-section obtained after slicing the sphere, I got the answer.

P_{el}=\frac{\sigma ^{2}}{2\varepsilon _{0}}; \; \sigma =\frac{Q}{4\pi R^2}
F_{el}=P_{el}\times S; \; S=\pi(R^2-h^2)
F_{el}=\frac{\frac{Q^2}{16\pi^2R^4}}{2\varepsilon_{0}}\times \pi(R^2-h^2)=\frac{Q^2(R^2-h^2)}{32\pi\varepsilon_{0}R^4}

Now I actually didn't get the concept here, what was that supposed to mean. Isn't there a conventional way to solve this problem?
 
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Hi AGNuke. I'm not too clear on what specific question you are asking. Are you asking why the pressure is given by σ2/2εo or are you asking why the force is given by F = P*\pi(R2-h2)? Or are you asking something else?

The expression for the pressure can be obtained in a fairly conventional way by considering the force on a small patch of area of the surface of a charged conductor.
 
TSny, I am sorry if I was unable to convey my question properly, but I am asking that can I solve this question using coulomb's law and some other textbook stuff like properties of conductors, etc.?

I mean, if I don't know the concept of electric field (which I am still trying to justify, even if for a sphere), can I solve it? If so, then what should I do? (Coulomb's Law?)
 
A direct integration using Coulomb's law is a bit messy. Using the following concepts involving electric field makes it a lot easier:

(1) The relation between force and electric field: F = qE

(2) The relation between electric field at the surface of a conductor and the charge density: E = σ/εo

(3) The electric field produced by a large flat sheet of uniform charge density: E = σ/2εo

The latter 2 properties are easily derived from Gauss' law.
 
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