Checking answer to stacking problem

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The problem involves determining how many uniform bricks can be stacked on a smooth horizontal surface without toppling over, given that each brick is offset by a distance of 0.15L from the previous one. The discussion centers around the concept of center of mass and its relation to stability in stacked configurations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of the center of mass for the stacked bricks and how it relates to the stability of the stack. Questions arise about the logic behind the conditions for toppling and the specific calculations leading to the number of bricks that can be stacked.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the calculations and reasoning behind the number of bricks that can be stacked before toppling occurs. Some participants express uncertainty about the original poster's conclusion of 7 bricks and seek clarification on the calculations and assumptions made.

Contextual Notes

Participants question the significance of the smooth surface mentioned in the problem statement and its impact on the stability of the stacked bricks. There is also a focus on the interpretation of the tipping point in relation to the center of mass.

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Homework Statement


A uniform brick of length L is laid on a smooth horizontal surface. Other equal bricks are now piled on as shown, so that the sides form a continuous plane, but the ends are offset at each block from the previous brick by a distance 0.15L. How many bricks can be stacked in this manner before the pile topples over?

Homework Equations


centre of mass = (m1x1 + m2x2) / (m1 + m2)

The Attempt at a Solution


i did the solution and got total number of blocks when toppling occurs is 7 is it correct i did it stating that toppling occurs when center of mass is at least l/2 away from the center is it correct?
one more the question states smooth floor is it important?
 
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vishnu 73 said:
total number of blocks when toppling occurs is 7
Yes.
vishnu 73 said:
when center of mass is at least l/2 away from the center
The centre of mass of which set of bricks, and L/2 from the mass centre of what?
 
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i started calculating the centre of mass from on top of the stack so if at any point the centre of mass a block and the blocks above it lies outside of it it topples is the logic correct
 
vishnu 73 said:
... i did it stating that toppling occurs when center of mass is at least l/2 away from the center is it correct?
The idea is correct, but I don't see how you got 7 bricks. Can you show me?
 
vishnu 73 said:
i started calculating the centre of mass from on top of the stack so if at any point the centre of mass a block and the blocks above it lies outside of it it topples is the logic correct
That's still a bit garbled. I assume you mean that if the centre of mass of the bricks above a given brick lies beyond that given brick then they will topple.
So when it topples, where is the tipping point?
 
so i assumed n blocks were stacked
so the centre of mass of top two blocks measured from the centre of bottom block is
(0 * m + 0.15L *m)/2m
then using this the centre of mass top two blocks and the third block from top once again measured from centre of third block is

( 0.15L *m)/2m + 0.15L)*2m/3m here 3m is the mass of all three blocks and the third block itself is not contributing to the numerator

so for n blocks the centre of mass from the centre of nth block is (the equation is expanded out and cancelling m and l)

(0.15 + 0.15(2) ...0.15*n)/(n+1) ≥ 0.5 here 0.5 is representive of half the length of the block as centre of mass was measured from centre of block half the length means that it is tipping over

solving for n gives 6.67 or 7 blocks when it topples
is it logical or have i made i mistake
 
haruspex said:
So when it topples, where is the tipping point?
You did not explicitly answer the question that @haruspex asked, but the answer is implicit in the inequality that you set up. Anyway, it seems you understand the basics of the problem although your solution is a bit unorthodox.
vishnu 73 said:
solving for n gives 6.67 or 7 blocks when it topples
The problem is asking, "How many bricks can be stacked in this manner before[/color] the pile topples over?"
 
oh 6 then?
 
vishnu 73 said:
oh 6 then?
Right.
 
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