MHB Checking Field Axioms for $G = F \times F$

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The discussion revolves around determining whether the structure defined by $G = F \times F$ with specific addition and multiplication operations forms a field. Participants emphasize the importance of checking field axioms, particularly associativity, identity elements, and the existence of inverses. The zero element is correctly identified as (0, 0), but confusion arises regarding the identity element for multiplication, which is not (1, 0). The conversation also highlights the need to investigate potential zero-divisors in $G$. Ultimately, the conclusion hinges on verifying these properties to establish if $G$ qualifies as a field.
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Problem: Let $F$ be a field and let $G = F \times F$. Define multiplication and addition on $G$ by setting $(a, b)+(c, d) = (a+c, b+d)$ and $(a, b) \cdot (c, d) = (ac, bd)$. Does this define a field structure on $$G$$?

I know field axioms but I'm unable to apply them to this problem. How do you check associativity for example?
 
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Problem: Let $F$ be a field and let $G = F \times F$. Define multiplication and addition on $G$ by setting $(a, b)+(c, d) = (a+c, b+d)$ and $(a, b) \cdot (c, d) = (ac, bd)$. Does this define a field structure on $$G$$?

I know field axioms but I'm unable to apply them to this problem. How do you check associativity for example?
To check associativity (for multiplication – use a similar process for associativity of addition), start like this: $$\bigl((a, b) \cdot (c, d)\bigr) \cdot(e,f) = (ac,bd)\cdot (e,f) = \bigl((ac)e,(bd)f\bigr).$$ Then do a similar calculation for $(a,b)\cdot \bigl((c,d) \cdot(e,f)\bigr)$, and use associativity of $F$ to conclude that the two results are the same.

You might do better to start the problem by asking what are the zero and identity elements of $F\times F$. Does each element of $F\times F$ have a negative, and does each nonzero element have an inverse?
 
Thank you.

Opalg said:
You might do better to start the problem by asking what are the zero and identity elements of $F\times F$. Does each element of $F\times F$ have a negative, and does each nonzero element have an inverse?
I can't find suitable identity elements. I tried (0, 0) for addition and (1, 0) for multiplication but these don't work!
 
Guest said:
Thank you.

I can't find suitable identity elements. I tried (0, 0) for addition and (1, 0) for multiplication but these don't work!

Try $(0,0)$ again for addition:

$(a,b) + (0,0) = (a+0,b+0) =?$

This might help for multiplication: suppose our identity (if it exists) is $(x,y)$.

Since we must have: $(a,b)(x,y) = (a,b)$, we obtain:

$ax = a$
$by = b$.

Note we can re-write these as:

$a(x - 1) = 0$
$b(y - 1) = 0$. Use the field properties for $F$, now.

As to your larger question, as to whether or not $F \times F$ with the operations indicated is a field, I suggest you consider whether or not it has any zero-divisors.
 
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