Why Are My Phase Voltages the Same in This Motor Circuit?

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The discussion centers on a wye-connected motor circuit with an open neutral, where the user initially seeks to prove that the ratios of back EMF to current are equal across phases. However, they later realize that this cannot be proven due to an error in their simulation. The user concludes that the phase voltages are the same in a passive circuit with equal impedances because the sum of the phase voltages equals zero when back EMFs also sum to zero. This realization clarifies the behavior of the circuit and resolves the user's confusion. The thread highlights the importance of understanding circuit behavior in relation to phase voltages and back EMFs.
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Hi,

I have attached a diagram of a wye connected motor load with open neutral. The circuit shows an inverter state with a DC-bus voltage from terminal A to G (ground). The following equations should hold:

V_AN = Z*Ia + Ea
V_GN = Z*Ib + Eb
V_GN = Z*Ic + Ec
Ia + Ib + Ic = 0
Ea + Eb + Ec = 0 (back EMFs sum to zero)

I want to prove that:

Ea/Ia = Eb/Ib = Ec/Ic

which would mean, according to:

V_AN/Ia = Z + Ea/Ia
V_GN/Ib = Z + Eb/Ib
V_GN/Ic = Z + Ec/Ic

that the impedance + back EMF in each phase can be replaced by the same effective impedance. I have verified this by simulation in LTspice.

This is probably very simple, but it has been bothering me all day. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks!
 

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Err, so I made a huge mistake when I did the simulation, Ea/Ia = Eb/Ib = Ec/Ic can't be proven because it doesn't hold :>

I was wondering why the phase voltages for the circuit I posted were the same for a passive circuit with equal phase impedances. This is naturally due to the fact that the phase voltages sum to zero in both cases (when back EMFs sum to zero):

V_AN + 2*V_GN = Z*Ia + Ea + Z*Ib + Eb + Z*Ic + Ec = Z(Ia + Ib + Ic) + Ea + Eb + Ec =>

V_AN + 2*V_GN = 0

which would be the same for the passive circuit.

If you took the time to mull over this, thank you, apologies :)
 
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