[Circuits] Calculating the Thevenin Equivalent #1

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the Thevenin equivalent of a circuit, specifically focusing on finding the Thevenin voltage (V_th) after determining the Thevenin resistance (R_th). The context includes homework-related problem-solving using nodal analysis.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculates R_th as 4 Ω but struggles to find V_th, indicating a need for further equations to solve for the unknowns.
  • Another participant suggests that with the load removed and a common reference node assigned, there should be one equation with one unknown, implying a simplification in the analysis.
  • A participant clarifies that with no current flow through the 1 Ω resistor, the voltages V_1 and V_2 are the same, as no potential drop occurs across a resistor without current.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants appear to agree on the implications of removing the load and the relationship between the voltages at nodes V_1 and V_2, but the overall problem remains unresolved as the initial participant still seeks to find V_th.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the mathematical steps necessary to find V_th, and assumptions regarding the circuit configuration and node definitions are not fully detailed.

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Homework Statement



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The Attempt at a Solution



I got ##R_{ th }=4\quad Ω## easily but I am having trouble finding ##V_{th}##. Assume the negative terminal of the 32V voltage source is ground. Here is the nodal analysis at node 1:

$$\frac { 32-V_{ 1 } }{ 4 } +2=\frac { V_{ 1 } }{ 12 } +V_{ 1 }-V_{ 2 }$$

But I only have one equation and there are two variables.
 
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When you remove the load RL, and after assigning a common reference node, there's only one essential node remaining. So you should have one equation in one unknown.

Note that with the load removed there will be no current flow through the 1 Ω resistor...
 
gneill said:
When you remove the load RL, and after assigning a common reference node, there's only one essential node remaining. So you should have one equation in one unknown.

Note that with the load removed there will be no current flow through the 1 Ω resistor...

Opps, I should've added that I'm trying to find the voltage between (a) and (b).

##V_1## is the voltage on the node in between the 4 ohm and 12 ohm resistor and ##V_2## is the voltage of (a). (b) is ground.

If there is no current flow through the 1 ohm resistor, does that mean that the voltage of ##V_1## and ##V_2## is the same?
 
ainster31 said:
Opps, I should've added that I'm trying to find the voltage between (a) and (b).

##V_1## is the voltage on the node in between the 4 ohm and 12 ohm resistor and ##V_2## is the voltage of (a). (b) is ground.

If there is no current flow through the 1 ohm resistor, does that mean that the voltage of ##V_1## and ##V_2## is the same?

Yup. No current means no potential drop.
 
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