Circular motion of ball and string

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the circular motion of a ball attached to a cord, specifically analyzing the tension in the cord at different points in the vertical circle and the time taken for one complete revolution.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the tension in the cord at the top and bottom of the circle using provided formulas but encounters discrepancies with expected values. They also question their approach to determining the time for one complete revolution.
  • Some participants suggest alternative formulas for tension and emphasize careful calculation to resolve discrepancies.
  • Another participant discusses the implications of zero tension at the top of the circle and provides a derived velocity for further calculations.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering different perspectives on the calculations and formulas. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the correct application of equations, and one participant reports success after following guidance provided.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of potential errors in the original poster's calculations, and assumptions regarding the conditions of the problem are being examined. The discussion reflects a learning process with varying interpretations of the physics involved.

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Homework Statement



Part A : A 0.5 Kg ball is attached to a cord 80 cm long. The ball is whirled in a vertical circle at a constant speed. If the ball takes 0.4 seconds to go around once, what is the tension in the cord at the top and bottom of the circle?

Part B How long does it take for the ball to go around once if the tension in the cord at the top of the circle is zero?

Homework Equations


v=2Pi*R/T
T=m(g+v^2/r) (bottom of the circle)
T=m(g-v^2/r) (top of the circle)


The Attempt at a Solution



For part A i used both of the circular motion formulas to fin the tension and i got totally different answers from what it suppose to be for top and bottom. Top it suppose to be 93.8N and bottom it suppose to be 104 N i got 92.7N top and 102.7 N bottom. ( I do not know if the answer is a print error).

For part A I tried to use v=2Pi*R/T to get the time and i keep getting the same time in part A which is 0.4 secs. But the answer is 1.8 seconds.

Can someone explain to be what I'm doing wrong? thanks!
 
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the formula for top of the circle should be

T=m(v^2/r - g) (top of the circle)

for part a, the time is 12.57 second

g = 9.81

try to put the numbers in your calculator more carefully, the result should come out correct
 
for part b, tension must equal zero yet F=ma must be obeyed

F = m * a

T + mg = m * v^2/r (the downward force consist of tension and weight)

mg = m*v^2/r (T=0)

g = v^2/r

v = 2.8 m s^-1

now try the v=2Pi*R/T again
 
Thanks it worked!
 

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