Circular orbits in Schwarzschild geometry

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The discussion focuses on calculating the periods of a spaceship in a circular orbit around a black hole with mass M and a Schwarzschild radius of 7M, as outlined in Hartle's "Gravity," problem P9.8. For part (a), the period as measured by an observer at infinity is determined using the formula T=2π/ω, resulting in T=14π√7M. In part (b), the proper time measured by the spaceship's clock is derived using the Schwarzschild metric, leading to T' = √((1-2M/r) + M/r)T. The discussion also raises questions about the derivation of Eqn 9.46 and the behavior of the expression at the photon sphere.

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Homework Statement


Hartle, Gravity, P9.8
A spaceship is moving without power in a circular orbit about a black hole of mass M, with Schwarzschild radius 7M.
(a) What is the period as measured by an observer at infinity?

(b) What is the period as measured by a clock on the spaceship?

Homework Equations


Eqn 9.46 from Hartle:
<br /> \omega =\sqrt{(M/r^3)}<br />

Proper time:
<br /> d\tau^2=-ds^2<br />
and the Schwarzschild metric.

The Attempt at a Solution


(a) This part is fine. Using T=2*pi/omega and substituting r=7M, T=14*pi*sqrt(7)*M.

However, I'm not sure how Eqn 9.46 is derived? Can it be derived using the Schwarzschild metric and noting that the coordinate r is constant?

(b) The clock in the spaceship measures proper time:
<br /> d\tau=\sqrt{(1-2M/r)dt^2+r^2d\phi^2}=\sqrt{(1-2M/r)+M/r}dt<br />
Here, d\phi^2=M/r^3dt
<br /> T&#039;=\sqrt{(1-2M/r)+M/r}T<br />
Is my reasoning correct? Assuming this is correct, is all that remains is to substitute r=7M and the period T from part (a)?
 
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alc95 said:
A spaceship is moving without power in a circular orbit about a black hole of mass M, with Schwarzschild radius 7M.
Calling 7M "Schwarzschild radius" is confusing.
alc95 said:
Can it be derived using the Schwarzschild metric and noting that the coordinate r is constant?
Sure (but don't ask me how exactly).

For (b), I would have expected an expression that becomes 0 at the photon sphere, but I'm not sure if that is right.
 

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