Classical model of diagamanetism

In summary, the electron sees the electrostatic attraction of the proton as well as the Lorentz force due to the B field.
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Pushoam
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My difficulty is :
If electron with orbital motion is taken as a dipole, then since the magnetic field is uniform, the net force due to magnetic field is 0.
But, in eqn. 6.6, while calculating force acting on it , e is taken as a moving charged particle, not as a dipole?
Why should the two ways of taking e gives two different answer?
 

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Pushoam said:
the net force due to magnetic field is 0.
There is no force parallel to the field. The force on the orbiting electron is radial, in the plane of the orbit.
If you view it as a point charge in orbit then you will get a rapidly rotating transverse force, but if you view it as smoothed out around the circle of the orbit then there is no net force at all since all the radial forces on the portions of it cancel.
 
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Pushoam said:

Homework Statement



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Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


My difficulty is :
If electron with orbital motion is taken as a dipole, then since the magnetic field is uniform, the net force due to magnetic field is 0.
But, in eqn. 6.6, while calculating force acting on it , e is taken as a moving charged particle, not as a dipole?
Why should the two ways of taking e gives two different answer?
Fact is, it's a funny dipole, in the sense that one charge is very massive compared to the other. So, just as we approximate that the Earth revolves around the Sun in a circular orbit, the electron revolves around the much more massive proton which just sits there. So the only moving charge is the electron, which sees the electrostatic attraction of the proton as well as the Lorentz force due to the B field.

(Strictly as an aside, the computational assumption is here made that the radius does not change when the B field is applied. For the classical view of the electron revolving around the nucleus as described here, that is incorrect. And the view of electrons revolving in quantized but constant radii around the nucleus is false to begin with. So the radius in the above picture is acually a function of B. I state this only to stir up another argument with whoever, as usual! :smile: And I've done the analysis. You the OP should ignore it completely.
 

What is the Classical Model of Diagmanetism?

The Classical Model of Diagmanetism is a theory in physics that explains the magnetic properties of materials. It states that in the presence of an external magnetic field, materials can become magnetized. This model was developed in the 19th century and is based on the concept of atomic magnetic moments.

What are the main assumptions of the Classical Model of Diagmanetism?

The main assumptions of the Classical Model of Diagmanetism are that atoms have magnetic moments, these moments are randomly oriented in the absence of an external magnetic field, and the magnetic moments align with the external field when it is present. It also assumes that materials have a high magnetic permeability and a low magnetic susceptibility.

What is the difference between paramagnetism and diamagnetism according to the Classical Model?

According to the Classical Model, paramagnetism is the property of materials with unpaired electrons that align with an external magnetic field, while diamagnetism is the property of materials with paired electrons that align against the external field. Paramagnetic materials have a positive magnetic susceptibility, while diamagnetic materials have a negative magnetic susceptibility.

What are some examples of diamagnetic materials according to the Classical Model?

Some examples of diamagnetic materials according to the Classical Model are copper, gold, silver, and water. These materials have paired electrons and a negative magnetic susceptibility, causing them to be repelled by a magnetic field.

How does the Classical Model of Diagmanetism explain the behavior of ferromagnetic materials?

The Classical Model of Diagmanetism does not fully explain the behavior of ferromagnetic materials, as it was developed before the discovery of ferromagnetism. However, it can be used to explain some of the properties of ferromagnetic materials, such as their permanent magnetization and hysteresis. Modern theories, such as the Weiss theory, have been developed to better explain the behavior of ferromagnetic materials.

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