Cobalt decays to Nickel - Why is this suppressed?

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The discussion revolves around the decay processes of cobalt to nickel, specifically focusing on the suppression of certain decay channels and the associated energy transfers in Compton scattering. The subject area includes nuclear physics and particle interactions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the maximum energy transfer in Compton scattering and question the nature of decay processes, particularly why the decay from ##4^+ \rightarrow 0^+## is forbidden. There are attempts to understand branching ratios and the implications of selection rules on decay probabilities.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants sharing insights about selection rules and angular momentum changes affecting decay likelihood. Some guidance has been offered regarding the nature of photon interactions and the energy levels involved, but no consensus has been reached on the specific reasons for decay suppression.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential confusion regarding the energy values used in calculations and the implications of photon interactions with matter. There is an ongoing examination of selection rules and their relevance to the decay processes being discussed.

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Homework Statement



(a) Show maximum energy transferred in compton scattering is as such.
(b) Identify what the peaks are and why some decays are suppressed.
(c) How do you distinguish between these 2 decays[/B]
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Part(a)
Bookwork. For completeness, I simply state
\Delta E = \frac{E_\gamma}{1 + \frac{m_e}{(1-cos\theta)E_\gamma}}
where ##c=1##.

Other processes important in ##\gamma## ray detection are observation of galaxies and X-ray spectroscopy.

Part(b)
First peak is ##4^+ \rightarrow 2^+##. Second peak is ##2^+ \rightarrow 0^+##.

Why is the decay ##4^+ \rightarrow 0^+## forbidden?

Part(c)
Not sure how to determine the branching ratios?
 
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unscientific said:
Other processes important in γ ray detection are observation of galaxies and X-ray spectroscopy.
I think the question asks for other processes the photons can make in the material, not other applications of gamma detection.

unscientific said:
Why is the decay ##4^+ \rightarrow 0^+## forbidden?
Hint: this quoted question alone is sufficient to find the answer, even without knowing which states are meant.

unscientific said:
Not sure how to determine the branching ratios?
Can you count how frequent some things are happening?
 
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mfb said:
I think the question asks for other processes the photons can make in the material, not other applications of gamma detection.

Hint: this quoted question alone is sufficient to find the answer, even without knowing which states are meant.

Can you count how frequent some things are happening?

Apart from scattering off the electrons, not sure what it can do. Can it be absorbed?

I think since the maximum energy that can be transferred to an electron is ##~0.91E_\gamma##, so ##4^+ \rightarrow 0^+## is forbidden.
 
unscientific said:
Apart from scattering off the electrons, not sure what it can do. Can it be absorbed?
It can create new particles.
I think since the maximum energy that can be transferred to an electron is ##~0.91E_\gamma##, so ##4^+ \rightarrow 0^+## is forbidden.
Huh?
How can the interaction of photons with matter long after their emission influence which photon production is allowed?
Also, where does that 0.91 come from? It is a not a universal limit.
 
mfb said:
It can create new particles.
Huh?
How can the interaction of photons with matter long after their emission influence which photon production is allowed?
Also, where does that 0.91 come from? It is a not a universal limit.

Ok, so it can undergo EM interaction to produce particles such as pair creation ##\gamma + Co \rightarrow Co + e^+ + e^-##.

Ok, I must be confused as I simply let ##E_\gamma = 2.505 MeV## which is wrong, as ##E_\gamma## is the energy of the photon and not the energy of the excited state.

I'm guessing there are some form of selection rules?
 
Pair creation, right.

2.502 MeV is the energy of the excitation and also the energy of an emitted photon from this transition to a good approximation.
unscientific said:
I'm guessing there are some form of selection rules?
Right. And ##4^+ \rightarrow 0^+## is sufficient to identify the selection rule.
 
mfb said:
Pair creation, right.

2.502 MeV is the energy of the excitation and also the energy of an emitted photon from this transition to a good approximation.
Right. And ##4^+ \rightarrow 0^+## is sufficient to identify the selection rule.

Ok, I just looked up Cottingham and the selection rule is:

If the nucleus changes spin from ##J_I## to ##J_f## through ##\gamma##-decay, then
|J_I + J_f| \geq J \geq |J_I-J_f|
The decay ##4^+ \rightarrow 2^+## represents ##6 \geq J \geq 2##.
The decay ##4^+ \rightarrow 0^+## represents ## 4 \geq J \geq 4##.
The decay ##2^+ \rightarrow 0^+## represents ## 2 \geq J \geq 2##.

Why is the decay ##4^+ \rightarrow 0^+## suppresed? Is it because the most likely angular momentum for the photon is ##J=2## from the first and third reactions?
 
Right.
Large changes in angular momentum make the transition unlikely. As extreme example 180Ta needs a change of 8 and the decay has not been observed yet.
 

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