Coefficient of Rolling Friction

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The problem involves determining the coefficient of rolling friction for bicycle tires under different inflation pressures. Two tires are rolled, and the distances they travel before their speeds are halved are measured, with one tire inflated to 40 and the other to 105. The scenario assumes that the net horizontal force is due to rolling friction only.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of Newton's second law and the relationship between net force, mass, and acceleration. There is confusion regarding the need for mass to find the coefficient of friction and how to calculate the normal force.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, exploring the relationships between forces and the equations involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the calculation of normal force and the friction force, but there is still uncertainty about how to proceed without explicit values for mass.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the absence of mass in the problem statement, which complicates the calculation of the coefficient of rolling friction. There is an ongoing discussion about the forces acting in the vertical direction and how they relate to the normal force.

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Homework Statement


Two bicycle tires are set rolling with the same initial speed of 3.00 along a long, straight road, and the distance each travels before its speed is reduced by half is measured. One tire is inflated to a pressure of 40 and goes a distance of 17.2 ; the other is at 105 and goes a distance of 92.3 . Assume that the net horizontal force is due to rolling friction only and take the free-fall acceleration to be = 9.80 .

What is the coefficient of rolling friction for the tire under low pressure?



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The Attempt at a Solution



I found the acceleration to be -0.19 I am stuck at that part I don't know what to do from there.
 
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Yes, good so far, don't forget your units. Now that you have solved for a, why not try Newton 2?
 
Ive tried that but Fnet=ma... they don't give mass in the problem. I can't find the coefficient without mass. I am really stuck...I know I have to use Newtons second law but I don't know how to start...
 
stokes said:
Ive tried that but Fnet=ma... they don't give mass in the problem. I can't find the coefficient without mass. I am really stuck...I know I have to use Newtons second law but I don't know how to start...
You may not need to know the mass. What's the formula for the friction force, which is given as Fnet in this problem?
 
Friction force= coefficient of friction * Normal force...?
 
stokes said:
Friction force= coefficient of friction * Normal force...?

Yes, and what is the normal force in this problem?
 
Hmmm that is what I am stuck on calculating normal force. Is there a way to calculate normal force with the information provided?
 
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stokes said:
Hmmm that is what I am stuck on calculating normal force.
To calculate the normal force, look in the y direction for all forces, and apply Newton 1, since there is no acceleration in the y direction..
 
Fn= 0?
 
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stokes said:
Fnet= 0?
Yes, Fnet = 0 in the y direction. The normal force acts up on the tire in the y direction. What other force acts in the y direction?
 
  • #11
Force of gravity. 9.8m/s^2
 
  • #12
stokes said:
Force of gravity. 9.8m/s^2
The acceleration of gravity is 9.8m/s^2;the force of gravity is the tires weight, which is what?
 
  • #13
Sorry I don't really know...
 
  • #14
stokes said:
Sorry I don't really know...
Oh,you should be familiar with the equation for weight : W = mg. So if the tire weighs 'mg', then the normal force must be ?
 
  • #15
n=mg...
 
  • #16
Yes! Now you've got everything you need. Go back into the horizontal direction and solve for the friction coefficient. The mass term should cancel out...
 
  • #17
I believe that's where I am stuck... I can't seem to continue from there. I would be missing the friction force to calculate the coefficient of friction.
 
  • #18
stokes said:
I believe that's where I am stuck... I can't seem to continue from there. I would be missing the friction force to calculate the coefficient of friction.
No, you already stated what the friction force, F_f is: it's the coef of friction, u, times the normal force, N, that is F_f = Fnet = u*N, and since N=mg, then the friction force is u*mg. And since F_net = ma, can you now solve for u?
 
  • #19
Thank you for your help. I don't know why I couldn't put that all together. Thanks again.
 
  • #20
stokes said:
Thank you for your help. I don't know why I couldn't put that all together. Thanks again.
It's OK, you toughed it out.
 

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