Coefficient of Rolling Friction

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The discussion focuses on calculating the coefficient of rolling friction for two bicycle tires inflated to different pressures. One tire travels 17.2 meters and the other 92.3 meters before their speeds are halved, with the initial speed set at 3.00 m/s. Participants emphasize the importance of using Newton's second law and recognizing that the normal force equals the weight of the tire (mg). The friction force is expressed as the product of the coefficient of friction and the normal force, allowing for the mass to cancel out in the calculations. The conversation concludes with a participant expressing gratitude for the clarification on how to approach the problem.
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Homework Statement


Two bicycle tires are set rolling with the same initial speed of 3.00 along a long, straight road, and the distance each travels before its speed is reduced by half is measured. One tire is inflated to a pressure of 40 and goes a distance of 17.2 ; the other is at 105 and goes a distance of 92.3 . Assume that the net horizontal force is due to rolling friction only and take the free-fall acceleration to be = 9.80 .

What is the coefficient of rolling friction for the tire under low pressure?



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I found the acceleration to be -0.19 I am stuck at that part I don't know what to do from there.
 
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Yes, good so far, don't forget your units. Now that you have solved for a, why not try Newton 2?
 
Ive tried that but Fnet=ma... they don't give mass in the problem. I can't find the coefficient without mass. I am really stuck...I know I have to use Newtons second law but I don't know how to start...
 
stokes said:
Ive tried that but Fnet=ma... they don't give mass in the problem. I can't find the coefficient without mass. I am really stuck...I know I have to use Newtons second law but I don't know how to start...
You may not need to know the mass. What's the formula for the friction force, which is given as Fnet in this problem?
 
Friction force= coefficient of friction * Normal force...?
 
stokes said:
Friction force= coefficient of friction * Normal force...?

Yes, and what is the normal force in this problem?
 
Hmmm that is what I am stuck on calculating normal force. Is there a way to calculate normal force with the information provided?
 
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stokes said:
Hmmm that is what I am stuck on calculating normal force.
To calculate the normal force, look in the y direction for all forces, and apply Newton 1, since there is no acceleration in the y direction..
 
Fn= 0?
 
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stokes said:
Fnet= 0?
Yes, Fnet = 0 in the y direction. The normal force acts up on the tire in the y direction. What other force acts in the y direction?
 
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Force of gravity. 9.8m/s^2
 
  • #12
stokes said:
Force of gravity. 9.8m/s^2
The acceleration of gravity is 9.8m/s^2;the force of gravity is the tires weight, which is what?
 
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Sorry I don't really know...
 
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stokes said:
Sorry I don't really know...
Oh,you should be familiar with the equation for weight : W = mg. So if the tire weighs 'mg', then the normal force must be ?
 
  • #15
n=mg...
 
  • #16
Yes! Now you've got everything you need. Go back into the horizontal direction and solve for the friction coefficient. The mass term should cancel out...
 
  • #17
I believe that's where I am stuck... I can't seem to continue from there. I would be missing the friction force to calculate the coefficient of friction.
 
  • #18
stokes said:
I believe that's where I am stuck... I can't seem to continue from there. I would be missing the friction force to calculate the coefficient of friction.
No, you already stated what the friction force, F_f is: it's the coef of friction, u, times the normal force, N, that is F_f = Fnet = u*N, and since N=mg, then the friction force is u*mg. And since F_net = ma, can you now solve for u?
 
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Thank you for your help. I don't know why I couldn't put that all together. Thanks again.
 
  • #20
stokes said:
Thank you for your help. I don't know why I couldn't put that all together. Thanks again.
It's OK, you toughed it out.
 
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