Collisions in Two Dimensions (Perfectly Elastic)

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In the discussion on perfectly elastic collisions in two dimensions, a queue ball moving at 4.3 m/s strikes a stationary eight ball, resulting in the queue ball's final speed of 2.3 m/s. The key equations used include conservation of momentum and kinetic energy. The participant calculated the final speed of the eight ball to be 3.6 m/s and set up equations for both x and y components to find the angles involved. Ultimately, they solved for the angle of the queue ball's trajectory using the Pythagorean theorem, arriving at approximately 57 degrees. The participant questioned whether there was a simpler method for solving the problem, indicating potential complexity in their approach.
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Homework Statement


Assume an elastic collision (ignoring friction
and rotational motion).
A queue ball initially moving at 4.3 m/s
strikes a stationary eight ball of the same size
and mass. After the collision, the queue ball’s
final speed is 2.3 m/s .

Find the queue ball’s angle with respect
to its original line of motion.

v1i = 4.3
v1f = 2.3

Homework Equations


p1i + p2i = p1f + p2f
KEi = KEf

The Attempt at a Solution



sqrt(4.3^2 - 2.3^2) = v2f = 3.6 m/s

4.3 = 2.3*cos θ + 3.6*cos φ (for x direction)

0 = 2.3*sin θ - 3.6*sin φ (for y direction)

2.3*sin θ = 3.6*sin φ

Not quite sure how to proceed from here.
 
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calvert11 said:

Homework Statement


Assume an elastic collision (ignoring friction
and rotational motion).
A queue ball initially moving at 4.3 m/s
strikes a stationary eight ball of the same size
and mass. After the collision, the queue ball’s
final speed is 2.3 m/s .

Find the queue ball’s angle with respect
to its original line of motion.

v1i = 4.3
v1f = 2.3

Homework Equations


p1i + p2i = p1f + p2f
KEi = KEf

The Attempt at a Solution



sqrt(4.3^2 - 2.3^2) = v2f = 3.6 m/s

4.3 = 2.3*cos θ + 3.6*cos φ (for x direction)

0 = 2.3*sin θ - 3.6*sin φ (for y direction)

2.3*sin θ = 3.6*sin φ

Not quite sure how to proceed from here.

m_1u_1+m_2u_2=m_1_v_1+m_2v_2\rightarrow m(u_1+0)=m(v_1+v_2).
 
asleight said:
m_1u_1+m_2u_2=m_1_v_1+m_2v_2\rightarrow m(u_1+0)=m(v_1+v_2).

I'm not sure how that helps . The masses are equal so they drop from the equations and the velocities are known.
 
calvert11 said:
i'm not sure how that helps . The masses are equal so they drop from the equations and the velocities are known.

4.3 = 2.3 + v...
 
asleight said:
4.3 = 2.3 + v...
Still don't know what you're getting at :).

But I managed to solve it using pythagoras: (4.3-2.3 cos θ)^2 + (2.3 sin θ)^2 = 3.6^2

With that I get around 57 degrees which is correct.

Just out of curiosity, would there have been a simpler way of solving this? My solution required using power-reducing formulas for sin/cos...which seems too complicated considering the level of the course.
 
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