Combinatorics (Partitioning books onto shelves)

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a combinatorial problem involving the arrangement of twenty different books across five shelves, with varying conditions regarding the importance of book order and shelf labeling.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply a formula for separating objects into unlabeled partitions and questions the next steps for part (a). Some participants discuss the implications of the problem's wording and how it affects their understanding of part (b).

Discussion Status

Participants have made progress on part (a) and have reached a confident answer. There is ongoing exploration of part (b), with hints being exchanged to clarify the approach needed.

Contextual Notes

The problem specifies that each shelf must hold at least twenty books, which may influence the interpretation of the arrangements. There is also a distinction made between caring about the order of books and the arrangement of shelves.

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Homework Statement



45.) Twenty different books are to be put on five book shelves, each of which holds at least twenty books.
a) How many different arrangements are there if you only care about the number of books on the shelves (and not which book is where)?
b) How many different arrangements are there if you care about which books are where, but the order of the books on the shelves doesn't matter?
c) How many different arrangements are there if the order on the shelves does matter?

Homework Equations



For part (a)

I know that the equation for separating objects into unlabeled partitions is

n!/(k!)(n1!)(n2!)..(nk!)

where n1,n2,etc. are the number of objects in each partition and k is the number of partitions, but I don't know where to go from there. Is this the right idea? Hopefully if someone can help me with (a) i can figure out the other parts of the problem.
 
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Alright. I found the answer to (a) to be 10626 and am quite confident I am correct, and (c) is just that answer*(20!).

Now I am stuck on part (b). Any hints would be appreciated.
 
(b) Suppose you make a list of the books and write, next to each book, the number of the shelf it's on.
 
Ahh right, I guess I just got mixed up on the wording. When you say it like that, I got it right away. Ha ha, thanks!
 

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