Common-Emitter Amplifier (Collector Voltage)

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The discussion revolves around the operation of a common-emitter transistor amplifier, specifically focusing on the collector voltage in relation to the base and emitter voltages. Participants analyze the voltage measurements provided in a textbook example and question the validity of these values based on their calculations.

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  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the textbook's assertion that the collector voltage (Vc) can be 7 volts, given their calculation suggests it should be 5 volts based on the emitter current (Ie) and the voltage drop across the collector resistor (Rc).
  • Another participant supports the textbook's claim, stating that if the collector current (Ic) is 1 mA, then the voltage drop across Rc would indeed allow for Vc to be 7 volts.
  • Concerns are raised about the assumption that the collector-emitter voltage drop (Vcb) can be calculated as 12 volts minus the base voltage, with some participants arguing this leads to confusion regarding the maximum possible collector voltage.
  • There is a clarification regarding the voltage drop assumption, with one participant correcting themselves to specify that the base-emitter voltage drop (Vbe) is 0.7 volts, not the base-collector voltage drop (Vbc).

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the interpretation of the voltage values and the calculations leading to them. There is no consensus on whether the textbook is correct or if the calculations presented by the initial poster are valid.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential confusion regarding the definitions and assumptions related to voltage drops in the circuit, particularly distinguishing between Vbe and Vbc. The discussion remains open regarding the implications of these definitions on the calculated voltages.

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This discussion may be useful for electronics students or practitioners interested in understanding the nuances of common-emitter amplifier operation and the implications of voltage measurements in transistor circuits.

roam
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Hi,

My question is regarding an example of a common-emitter transistor amplifier shown in my electronics book. Here is the diagram of this particular amp operating from a DC power supply:


My book says: "the transistor has β = 99, with no signal applied the voltage at the base of the transistor is measured to be 6 volts, so the dc voltages at the emitter and collector of the transistor are Ve=5.3 V, Vc=7 V respectively."

So I don't understand how you can have 7 volts at the collector in this particular circuit. :confused:

My book always makes the assumption that b-c voltage drop is 0.7. So we have

##I_e = \frac{V_e=6-0.7}{5.3 \ k\Omega} = 1 \ mA##​

And ##I_e \approx I_c##, therefore ##V_c=I_cR_c = 5 \ V##! So is the book wrong, or is there something wrong with my calculation?

We know that ##V_{cb} = 12-6 =6 V##. Hence Vc can't be greater than 6. I'm very confused and I think it might be a typo. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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If IC = 1mA then the voltage drop across RC is 5V. Your book is correct.
 
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roam said:
Hence Vc can't be greater than 6.

Why do you think that Vc can't be greater than the base voltage?
 
I agree with The Electrician, you are wrong to state that Vc-b =12-6=6V
 
My book always makes the assumption that b-c voltage drop is 0.7.
What polarity?


double check that statement. i'd have expected them to say that about voltage b-e not b-c.
 
jim hardy said:
What polarity?double check that statement. i'd have expected them to say that about voltage b-e not b-c.

My mistake, I meant to say b-e voltage drop is 0.7 volts. That is why we had ##V_e =6-0.7= 5.3 \ V##.
 
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