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The discussion centers on proving that numbers that are multiples of both a and b are also multiples of ab, specifically using a = 2 and b = 3. It is clarified that this statement is generally false, as demonstrated with a = 4 and b = 6, where the least common multiple is 12, not 24. A proof by contradiction is suggested, showing that if k2 is not a multiple of 2, it must be odd, leading to the conclusion that the product of two odd numbers is also odd. The conversation also touches on the relationship between this proof and the unique prime factorization of integers, emphasizing that if a number is divisible by 2, then its factors must also include 2. The discussion concludes with an acknowledgment of the need for specific conditions on a and b for the original statement to hold true.
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Homework Statement


I want to demonstrate that the numbers that are multiple of a and b at the same time, are the multiples of ab.

Let a be 2 and b be 3.

In the middle of the proof i get to a point that i have to prove that if 3*k2 is multiple of 2 then k2 is multiple of 2.

Homework Equations



3*k2 is multiple of 2 → k2 is multiple of 2

The Attempt at a Solution


As 3 is not multiple of 2, then k2 has to be multiple of 2. I do not know how to prove it formally.Thanks
 
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alpuy said:

Homework Statement


I want to demonstrate that the numbers that are multiple of a and b at the same time, are the multiples of ab.

Let a be 2 and b be 3.

In the middle of the proof i get to a point that i have to prove that if 3*k2 is multiple of 2 then k2 is multiple of 2.


Homework Equations



3*k2 is multiple of 2 → k2 is multiple of 2

The Attempt at a Solution


As 3 is not multiple of 2, then k2 has to be multiple of 2. I do not know how to prove it formally.


Thanks

The result you state

"the numbers that are multiple of a and b at the same time, are the multiples of ab"

is false in general, but is true for certain a and b (such as your a = 2 and b = 3). To see that the general statement is not true, consider a = 4 and b = 6; their least common multiple is 12, not 4 ##\times## 6 = 24.

What do you think you need to assume about a and b to make the result true?
 
alpuy said:
As 3 is not multiple of 2, then k2 has to be multiple of 2. I do not know how to prove it formally.
Proof by contradiction. If k2 is not a multiple of 2, it is an odd number. What is the product of two odd numbers?

This is related to the unique prime factorization of positive integers, by the way.

See the post of Ray Vickson for a general problem with your question.
 
Ray Vickson said:
The result you state

"the numbers that are multiple of a and b at the same time, are the multiples of ab"

is false in general, but is true for certain a and b (such as your a = 2 and b = 3). To see that the general statement is not true, consider a = 4 and b = 6; their least common multiple is 12, not 4 ##\times## 6 = 24.

What do you think you need to assume about a and b to make the result true?

Ok, i see that that statement is not true, the statement may be valid for prime numbers, how is the proof?

mfb said:
Proof by contradiction. If k2 is not a multiple of 2, it is an odd number. What is the product of two odd numbers?

This is related to the unique prime factorization of positive integers, by the way.

See the post of Ray Vickson for a general problem with your question.

You are right it can be proven by contradiction. (2m + 1)(2n + 1) = 4mn + 2(m + n) + 1.
and 4mn + 2(m + n) is even so 4mn + 2(m + n) + 1 is odd.

How is it related to the unique prime factorization of positive integers?

Regards
 
alpuy said:
How is it related to the unique prime factorization of positive integers?
If a is divisible by 2 and a=b*c, then b or c (or both) is divisible by 2 because the prime factor of 2 has to "be somewhere in the product."
 
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