Commutators of Lorentz generators

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The discussion revolves around the commutation relations of Lorentz generators as presented in Srednicki's work on quantum field theory. Participants explore the mathematical derivation of these relations and the implications of certain assumptions and properties of the generators.

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  • One participant cites an equation from Srednicki that relates the transformation of Lorentz generators under a Lorentz transformation.
  • Another participant suggests using a Kronecker delta to assist in the derivation of the commutation relations.
  • A different participant points out that the anti-symmetry of the generators allows for a specific representation of the generators.
  • There is a question regarding the level of understanding required for the topic, with references to graduate-level quantum physics and prior knowledge in quantum mechanics.

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Participants express uncertainty about the derivation process and the application of certain mathematical tools, indicating that multiple viewpoints and approaches are present without a clear consensus.

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Participants note the dependence on the properties of the Lorentz generators, such as anti-symmetry, and the potential challenges in extracting the commutator due to the indices involved.

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This discussion may be useful for students and researchers in quantum field theory, particularly those interested in the mathematical foundations of Lorentz transformations and commutation relations.

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Equation 2.14 of Srednicki is:

[tex]U(\Lambda)^{-1} M^{\mu \nu} U(\Lambda) = \Lambda^{\mu}_{\,\,\rho} \Lambda^{\nu}_{\, \, \sigma} M^{\rho \sigma}[/tex]

He says that writing [itex]\Lambda = 1 + \delta \omega[/itex], one obtains the usual commutation relation of the [itex]M_{\mu \nu}[/itex]:

[tex][ M^{\mu \nu},M^{\rho \sigma} ] = i ( g^{\mu \rho} M^{\nu \sigma} - (\mu \leftrightarrow \nu}) - (\rho \leftrightarrow \sigma)[/tex]

I get, starting from the first equation

[tex][ M^{\mu \nu},M^{\rho \sigma} ] \delta \omega_{\rho \sigma} = i (\eta^\mu_\rho \delta \omega^\nu_\sigma M^{\rho \sigma} + \eta^\nu_\sigma \delta \omega^\mu_\rho M^{\rho \sigma} )[/tex]

I don't see how to extract the commutator because the omega on the right side contain one of the indices that is not summed over. Its' not clear to me how to proceed. Any suggestion?
 
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I think it should work if you stick in a kronecker delta.
 
Check the right hand side of the equation, you can write


[tex] <br /> \delta\omega^\nu_\sigma = \delta\omega_{\rho\sigma} \eta^{\rho \nu} <br /> [/tex]

Edit:

Also M is anti-symmetric, which means you can write it as

[tex] <br /> M^{uv} = \frac{1}{2} (M^{uv} - M^{vu})<br /> [/tex]
 
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what level of quantum physics is this? grad?
 
what said:
Check the right hand side of the equation, you can write


[tex] <br /> \delta\omega^\nu_\sigma = \delta\omega_{\rho\sigma} \eta^{\rho \nu} <br /> [/tex]
Of course! (Slapping myself right now...I should have seen it). Thanks!
 
thoughtgaze said:
what level of quantum physics is this? grad?
This is from a book on quantum field theory. You would normally study two books on quantum mechanics before this.
 

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