Comparing Kinetic and Potential Energy in Circular Motion

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving kinetic and potential energy in the context of circular motion. The original poster presents a scenario where a mass is swung in a vertical circle, seeking to determine the tension in the string at both the top and bottom of the circle.

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  • Participants discuss the implications of constant angular velocity and the relationship between kinetic and potential energy as the mass moves through different heights in the gravitational field. Questions arise regarding the assumptions made about energy conservation and the role of external forces in maintaining constant speed.

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Some participants express agreement with the original poster's calculations, while others raise questions about the assumptions of constant angular velocity and the energy transformations occurring during the motion. The discussion appears to be productive, exploring different interpretations of the problem without reaching a definitive consensus.

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Participants are considering the effects of gravitational potential energy on kinetic energy as the object moves through the vertical circle, questioning whether the assumptions made about constant speed are valid in this context.

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Just wondering if anyone can check over my answer for a question.

Q) A 1.7kg object is swung on the end of a 0.6m string in a vertical circle. The object does one revolution every 1.1s. What is the tension in the string at the top of the circle? and the bottom?

A) m=1.79kg r=0.6m t=1.1s

\omega = 2\pi/1.1 = 5.711986643ms-1

F=mr\omega2 = 1.7*0.6*5.7119866432=33.2793N
minus force due to gravity 1.7*9.8=16.6193N
= 16.71N at top

33.2793N + 16.6193N = 50N at the bottom

Many thanks

p.s( the omega is not to the power...its just the way it came out after i wrote it)
 
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What keeps the angular velocity constant? Shouldn't the mass' kinetic energy decrease as it climbs higher in the gravitational field (trading KE for PE)? Or are we to assume that whatever is swinging the string around is compensating for this?
 
The way I see it, there's nothing wrong. I got the same answers as you.
 
Ambidext said:
The way I see it, there's nothing wrong.
If you assume that ω is constant, as gneill points out.
 
Ambidext said:
The way I see it, there's nothing wrong. I got the same answers as you.

Compare the KE for the assumed constant-speed motion to the energy gained or lost due to change in PE as an object rises or falls through the same vertical distance (top and bottom of the loop). How do the magnitudes compare? Is is safe to assume constant speed?
 

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