Comparing relativistic momentum to classical

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The discussion revolves around comparing relativistic momentum to classical momentum in the context of a particle whose kinetic energy is twice its rest energy. Participants are exploring the implications of this relationship on the accuracy of momentum calculations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to relate kinetic energy to momentum using both relativistic and classical equations, expressing confusion about the results. Some participants suggest using ratios of momentum equations and Taylor expansions to analyze the problem further.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants offering various approaches to analyze the problem. There is no explicit consensus yet, but several lines of reasoning are being explored, including algebraic manipulation and theoretical considerations regarding mass in relativistic contexts.

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The original poster expresses uncertainty about their calculations and the use of LaTex, indicating a potential barrier to clear communication of their attempts. There is also a mention of outdated concepts in relativistic physics that may influence the discussion.

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EDIT: Okay I don't expect an answer for this because of my crappy attempt at LaTex, i'll work on making it look prettier sorry

Homework Statement


If the kinetic energy of a particle is equal to twice its rest energy, what percentage error is made by using p = mu for the magnitude of its momentum?


Homework Equations


[tex]\[E_i=mc^2\][/tex]
[tex]\[p = \frac{mu}{(1-\frac{u^2}{c^2})^\frac{1}{2}}\][/tex]
[tex]\[p = mu\][/tex]
[tex]\[K=\frac{p^2}{2m}\][/tex]



The Attempt at a Solution


I set K = 2mc^2 and then solved for the relative velocity u and ended up with u=(2/sqrt(5))*c

I then set K = 2mc^2 again but this time the momentum term was non relativistic, and solving for u I got u = 2c

now I'm lost
 
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Try using your two equations for momentum to get the ratio of the relativistic momentum to the pre-relativistic momentum. If you did the algebra right so far, you should get the right answer.
 
Just perform a Taylor expansion in the quantity [itex]p/(mc)[/itex], which is small for non-relativistic motion. Here [itex]m[/itex] is the invariant (rest) mass of the particle. One should not use any other masses in relativistic physics anymore. That's outdated since 1908 when Minkowski figured out the mathematical structure of special-relativistic space-time!
 
Another equation you might consider using is K=(γ-1)mc2. This would greatly simplify the analysis.

Chet
 
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