Completing the Square: A Different Approach for Solving Quadratic Equations?

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The discussion focuses on completing the square for quadratic equations, specifically when the coefficient of x squared is greater than one. The user Mo seeks help with two equations, expressing them in the form (px+q)² + r. Daniel provides a solution for the first equation, 16x² - 8x + 11, demonstrating the method to arrive at (4x - 1)² + 10. Another participant suggests an alternative approach by matching coefficients after expanding the squared expression. The conversation highlights different methods to simplify the process of completing the square for quadratics with larger coefficients.
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I have only just recently started this topic ... (3 topic in AS maths for me)

I have 1 question with two parts.I just can't seem to get the answer!


"Express, in the form (px+q)^2 + r whereby p > 0"

a) 16x^2 -8x +11
b) 9x^2 +3x +1

I don't seem to find a problem doing any of these when the coefficient of X squared is 1, but when it is bigger than 1, it causes me problems!

I would be gratefull if some once could at least help me through the first 1, so i can understand the method.Thanks.

Regards
Mo
 
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Mo said:
I have only just recently started this topic ... (3 topic in AS maths for me)

I have 1 question with two parts.I just can't seem to get the answer!


"Express, in the form (px+q)^2 + r whereby p > 0"

a) 16x^2 -8x +11
b) 9x^2 +3x +1

I don't seem to find a problem doing any of these when the coefficient of X squared is 1, but when it is bigger than 1, it causes me problems!

I would be gratefull if some once could at least help me through the first 1, so i can understand the method.Thanks.

Regards
Mo

I'll solve a) and let u take b).
a)16x^{2}=(4x)^{2}
16x^{2}-8x=(4x)^{2}-2\cdot 4x
Then:
16x^2 -8x +11=(4x-1)^{2}+10

Daniel.
 
A naive way of doing this is to write:

16x^2 -8x +11=(px+q)^2 + r

and expand the right hand side (multiple out the squared part and collect powers of x). Now match the coefficients to solve for p, q, and r.
 
Thanks both for your help!
 
dextercioby said:
I'll solve a) and let u take b).
a)16x^{2}=(4x)^{2}
16x^{2}-8x=(4x)^{2}-2\cdot 4x
Then:
16x^2 -8x +11=(4x-1)^{2}+10

Daniel.

I have never seen your method before. I cannot say it makes sense to me. care to explain it?
 
ComputerGeek said:
I have never seen your method before. I cannot say it makes sense to me. care to explain it?

It's not a bigdeal.
Let's pick an arbitrary polynom of degree 2:ax^{2}+bx+c.
U want to put in the form (px+q)^{2}+r.
The direct method is to equal the two expressions and identify the coefficients of the powers of "x".That what Shmoe said.
I found another method which can be thought of being intuitive,and sometimes useful as well.
Take the square:ax^{2}+bx.It can be put like:
(\sqrt{a} x)^{2}+2\sqrt{a}\frac{b}{2\sqrt{a}} x+\frac{b^{2}}{4a}-\frac{b^{2}}{4a} okay??
You restrain the square and add "c" in both sides to get:
ax^{2}+bx+c =(\sqrt{a} x +\frac{b}{2\sqrt{a}})^{2} +(c-\frac{b^{2}}{4a})

And u can easily find (p,q,r).

Daniel.
 
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