Complex conjugate of a pole is a pole?

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The discussion revolves around the nature of poles in complex functions, specifically whether the complex conjugate of a pole is also a pole. The original poster presents a function with a simple pole and questions the implications of having a complex conjugate singular point.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between poles and their complex conjugates, questioning whether properties of complex functions can be applied to simplify analysis. There is also discussion about the nature of roots and poles in relation to real and imaginary values.

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The conversation includes various perspectives on the definitions and properties of poles and complex conjugates. Some participants provide examples to illustrate their points, while others express confusion about the definitions being used. There is no explicit consensus, but the discussion is active and probing.

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Participants note that the definitions of poles and their conjugates may depend on the nature of the function and its coefficients, particularly in relation to real and imaginary numbers. There is an acknowledgment of potential confusion regarding the terminology used in the discussion.

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This isn't a homework problem, but a more general question.

Let ##f## be a function with two singular points ##r## and its complex conjugate ##r^*##.

let
$$f=\frac{g}{z-r} \quad \text{and assume} \quad g(r)\neq 0$$
so ##r## is a simple pole of ##f##.

we have conjugates that are singular points of ##f##,
can we say that ##r^*## is also a simple pole of ##f## because it is a complex conjugate of ##r##? if so, what property of complex functions can we invoke to avoid doing the same calculations for ##r^*##?
 
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Why are you defining u?? But OK
The function $$f(z)=\frac 1 {z^2-a^2} $$ has poles at $$z=\pm a $$ This is a characteristic of the function and is not generally true.
 
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. -r is not the complex conjugate of r in most cases.

And I think ##f=\frac{1}{(z-1)(z+1)^2}## satisfies your post but does not have a simple pole at both roots.
 
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docnet said:
can we say ##-r## is also a simple pole of ##f## because it is a complex conjugate of ##r##?
##-r## is not the complex conjugate of ##r## unless ##r## is purely imaginary.
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if so, what property of complex functions can we invoke to avoid doing the same calculations for ##-r##?
If ##g(z)## is a polynomial with real coefficients and ##r## is a root, then ##\bar {r}## is also a root.

PS. I assume that you are using '##r##' to designate a root rather than a real
 
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No. If you insist -r is the complex conjugate of r then r is imaginary, so let's say ##r=i##. Then consider
##f(z)=\frac{1}{(z-i)(z+i)^2}##
 
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that makes sense. sorry, think i was confusing this with the case of real valued functions always having complex valued roots in conjugate pairs. my brain is not working its best tdaoy
 
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