Complex exponential to a power

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The discussion revolves around the properties of the complex exponential function, particularly the expression ##e^{2\pi i r}## where ##r## is a rational number. Participants explore the implications of substituting rational numbers for integers in the context of complex exponentiation and the resulting values.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that for integer values of ##n##, ##e^{2\pi i n} = 1##, but questions arise when substituting a rational number ##r##, leading to the observation that ##e^{2\pi i (1/2)} = -1##.
  • Another participant identifies the relationship to Euler's identity, suggesting that the square root of 1 has two roots, 1 and -1, and connects this to the original equation.
  • A third participant points out that the rules applied for real numbers may not hold for complex numbers, referencing a resource on the topic.
  • A later reply emphasizes the importance of understanding the complex exponential function within the framework of complex analysis.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the application of rules for real numbers to complex numbers, indicating a lack of consensus on how to interpret the implications of substituting rational numbers into the exponential function.

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There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions made about the properties of the complex exponential function and the applicability of certain mathematical rules when transitioning from integers to rational numbers.

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Say I have ##e^{2\pi i n}##, where ##n## is an integer. Then it's clear that ##(e^{2\pi i})^n = 1^n = 1##.
However, what if replace ##n## with a rational number ##r##? It seems that by the same reasoning we should have that ##e^{2\pi i r} = (e^{2\pi i})^r = 1^r = 1##. But what if ##r=1/2## for example? Then ##e^{2 \pi i (\frac{1}{2})} = e^{\pi i} = -1##. What am I doing wrong here?
 
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Isn't that Euler's identity you now have?

Add 1 to both sides to get ##e^{i\pi} + 1 = -1 + 1## hence ##e^{i\pi} + 1 = 0 ##

So sqrt of 1 has two roots 1 and -1 right? squaring the answer you got brings you back to the original ##e^{2\pi i} = 1##

@fresh_42 or @Mark44 can provide a better answer I think.
 
Mr Davis 97 said:
Say I have ##e^{2\pi i n}##, where ##n## is an integer. Then it's clear that ##(e^{2\pi i})^n = 1^n = 1##.
However, what if replace ##n## with a rational number ##r##? It seems that by the same reasoning we should have that ##e^{2\pi i r} = (e^{2\pi i})^r = 1^r = 1##.
No more than the fact that ##sin(2\pi n) == 0## for all ##n\in N## implies ##sin(2\pi r) == 0## for all rational numbers ##r##
But what if ##r=1/2## for example? Then ##e^{2 \pi i (\frac{1}{2})} = e^{\pi i} = -1##. What am I doing wrong here?
The complex exponential function ##e^{i\theta}, \theta \in R## is very fundamental. I suggest that you study it in the context of complex analysis.
 

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