Complex number and its conjugate problem help

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The discussion revolves around solving the equation involving a complex number z and its conjugate z̄, specifically z̄z̄ + zi = -i + 1. Participants emphasize the need to express z in terms of its real and imaginary components, x and iy, and to substitute these into the equation for clarity. There is some confusion regarding the interpretation of z̄z̄ and its relationship to the magnitude of z. The conversation highlights the importance of showing attempts at solving the problem for better guidance. Overall, the thread aims to clarify the steps needed to find the values of z.
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Homework Statement


Given that a complex number z and its conjugate z¯ satisfy the equation z¯z¯ + zi = -i +1. Find the values of z.

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Hey, I think z.z-=1 but what's with the zi thing. Can you upload the picture of your question? Its not clear enough.
 
blckndglxy said:

Homework Statement


Given that a complex number z and its conjugate z¯ satisfy the equation z¯z¯ + zi = -i +1. Find the values of z.

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The Attempt at a Solution


Hi blckndglxy, welcome to PF.

You have to show some attempt at solving the problem. Write z as z=x+iy, substitute into the equation z¯z¯ + zi = -i +1 and solve.
 
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Bibatshu Thapa said:
Hey, I think z.z-=1 but what's with the zi thing. Can you upload the picture of your question? Its not clear enough.
You are not right, z.z- = |z|2, square of the magnitude of z. zi is z multiplied by i.
 
ehild said:
Hi blckndglxy, welcome to PF.

You have to show some attempt at solving the problem. Write z as z=x+iy, substitute into the equation z¯z¯ + zi = -i +1 and solve.
hello there.. so z¯ = x-iy right? so i have to replace the z¯ too right? sorry I'm still new and I'm clueless with this question..
 
blckndglxy said:
hello there.. so z¯ = x-iy right? so i have to replace the z¯ too right? sorry I'm still new and I'm clueless with this question..
Yes. Replace z with x+iy and z- with x-iy.
 
blckndglxy said:
hello there.. so z¯ = x-iy right? so i have to replace the z¯ too right? sorry I'm still new and I'm clueless with this question..
Writing ##z = x+iy## and ##bar{z} = x - iy##, your equation becomes
$$|z|^2 = 1 - i - zi$$.
Can you see how the value of ##x## can be determined right away from this equation? That leaves you with the simpler problem of finding ##y##.
 
Ray Vickson said:
Writing ##z = x+iy## and ##bar{z} = x - iy##, your equation becomes
$$|z|^2 = 1 - i - zi$$.
The original equation is z¯z¯ + zi = -i +1. z¯z¯ is not |z|2,
 
ehild said:
Hi blckndglxy, welcome to PF.

You have to show some attempt at solving the problem. Write z as z=x+iy, substitute into the equation z¯z¯ + zi = -i +1 and solve.
Thanks a lot. Well I had forgotten the fact you mentioned. Really HELPFUL!
 
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