Complex Number Inequality: Solving for Locus of z = (x + iy) | Homework Help

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The discussion revolves around solving the inequality (z + 2i) / (2z + i) < 1, where z = x + iy. Participants clarify that direct use of inequalities with complex numbers is not appropriate and suggest using the modulus instead. The correct approach involves reformulating the inequality as |z + 2i| < |2z + i| and expressing both sides in terms of x and y. The expected result is the locus defined by x² + y² < 1. The conversation emphasizes the importance of proper notation and understanding of complex number properties.
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Homework Statement



The locus of z satisfying the inequality (z + 2 i) / (2 z + i) < 1 where z = (x + i y)

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The Attempt at a Solution


After putting the value of z = (x + i y) , I tried to rationalize it but now I am stuck. can somebody explain how to solve it. The correct answer is x2 + y2 < 1

Thank you in advance.
 
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mia5 said:

Homework Statement



The locus of z satisfying the inequality z + 2 i / 2 z + i is less than 1 where z = x + i y

Homework Equations



none

The Attempt at a Solution


After putting the value of z = x + i y , I tried to rationalize it but now I am stuck. can somebody explain how to solve it. The correct answer is x2 + y2 is less than 1

Thank you in advance.

You can't use inequalities directly with complex numbers.

Also, you need to use parentheses in your expressions to make them represent what you actually mean.

I assume you mean to be working with ( z + 2 i )/( 2 z + i)

z + 2 i / 2 z + i literally means ##\ \displaystyle z+\left(2\left(\frac{i}{2}\right)z\right)+i\ .##
 
mia5 said:
z + 2 i / 2 z + i is less than 1
Do you mean |(z + 2 i) /( 2 z + i)| < 1?
 
haruspex said:
Do you mean |(z + 2 i) /( 2 z + i)| < 1?

yes that is what I meant
 
Ok. Given an expression like 1/(x+iy), can you see how to get it into the form u+iv?
 
haruspex said:
Ok. Given an expression like 1/(x+iy), can you see how to get it into the form u+iv?

Are you meaning to say that I have to rationalize it ?
 
mia5 said:
Are you meaning to say that I have to rationalize it ?
Yes.
 
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haruspex said:
Yes.

Well, if you had only carefully read my first post. I did rationalize it but I am stuck at that.
 
mia5 said:
Well, if you had only carefully read my first post. I did rationalize it but I am stuck at that.

You don't need to rationalize it. Use |a/b|=|a|/|b|. So your inequality becomes |z+2i|<|2z+i|, right? Just express both sides in terms of x and y.
 
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Dick said:
You don't need to rationalize it. Use |a/b|=|a|/|b|. So your inequality becomes |z+2i|<|2z+i|, right? Just express both sides in terms of x and y.

:eek: Why didn't I think of it before ? But anyways thanks for the hint :smile:
 

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