Complex Numbers (Exponential/Rectangular Form)

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The discussion focuses on understanding complex numbers, specifically their exponential and rectangular forms. Participants confirm the correctness of parts A and B while seeking clarification on calculating angles (theta) and magnitudes for parts C and D. It is emphasized that magnitude refers to the length without direction, while the argument represents the angle. The conversation also highlights that when dividing complex numbers, one can use exponential form for simplification but does not need to convert to it for rectangular form problems, where rationalizing the denominator is sufficient. Overall, the importance of clarity in problem requirements and standard forms is underscored.
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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


Theta = arctan (y/x)

The Attempt at a Solution


Hopefully this is the right section to post in, but I am a bit confused with complex numbers. I am working on the problems above and I just wanted to make sure I am doing each part correctly. I think A and B are correct, but I'm not 100% sure about my theta. That usually trips me up. Are my theta's correct? Did I add pi correctly where it needs it? For C and D do I need to include the angle? In my answers? it does not say what form to do C and D in so I was a bit confused about those. Is there a standard form to use when it's not given in the problem? Also, is there some way to simplify D? OR do I just leave it how I have it?

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Marcin H said:

Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


Theta = arctan (y/x)

The Attempt at a Solution


Hopefully this is the right section to post in, but I am a bit confused with complex numbers. I am working on the problems above and I just wanted to make sure I am doing each part correctly. I think A and B are correct, but I'm not 100% sure about my theta. That usually trips me up. Are my theta's correct? Did I add pi correctly where it needs it? For C and D do I need to include the angle? In my answers? it does not say what form to do C and D in so I was a bit confused about those. Is there a standard form to use when it's not given in the problem? Also, is there some way to simplify D? OR do I just leave it how I have it?

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It looks like you have done parts (a) & (b) correctly.

Part (c) asks for magnitude, so you're not finished with it.

Part (d):
AB is correct.

I think it's easier to do both AB and A/B using exponential form (also called polar form).

Change answers to rectangular form at the end.​
 
SammyS said:
Part (c) asks for magnitude, so you're not finished with it.

I thought magnitude only meant the value, without a direction. Is that what I am missing? The direction? If so, how would I find that? Would I have to somehow add the angles I found in part A and B? Angle A + Angle B?

SammyS said:
I think it's easier to do both AB and A/B using exponential form (also called polar form).

Change answers to rectangular form at the end.

Oh ok. So since AB is correct I will just leave it. For A/B I can just use the answers from part A and part B right? So when dividing the numbers will just divide like normal but then I can combine the e's to e^(7pi/4 - 5pi/4)j right? Then after that convert to rectangular form? Is that the form you should always go to if the question does not specify?
 
Marcin H said:
I thought magnitude only meant the value, without a direction. Is that what I am missing? The direction? If so, how would I find that? Would I have to somehow add the angles I found in part A and B? Angle A + Angle B?
Oh ok. So since AB is correct I will just leave it. For A/B I can just use the answers from part A and part B right? So when dividing the numbers will just divide like normal but then I can combine the e's to e^(7pi/4 - 5pi/4)j right? Then after that convert to rectangular form? Is that the form you should always go to if the question does not specify?
Concerning part (d): The instructions do specify rectangular form.

When you did parts (a) and (b), you found magnitudes by using right triangles. Do the same for part (c).
 
Marcin H said:
I thought magnitude only meant the value, without a direction. Is that what I am missing? The direction? If so, how would I find that? Would I have to somehow add the angles I found in part A and B? Angle A + Angle B?
No. The magnitude is the length. You are asked for ##\vert A+B \vert## and ##\vert A-B \vert##.
Oh ok. So since AB is correct I will just leave it. For A/B I can just use the answers from part A and part B right? So when dividing the numbers will just divide like normal but then I can combine the e's to e^(7pi/4 - 5pi/4)j right? Then after that convert to rectangular form? Is that the form you should always go to if the question does not specify?
Not always. It's just easier here. Calculate ##A/B## in polar coordinates and you will see what it is in rectangular form.

SammyS beat me ... but I've done all the calculations, so I couldn't resist ...
 
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Marcin H said:
I thought magnitude only meant the value, without a direction. Is that what I am missing? The direction? If so, how would I find that? Would I have to somehow add the angles I found in part A and B? Angle A + Angle B?

Oh ok. So since AB is correct I will just leave it. For A/B I can just use the answers from part A and part B right? So when dividing the numbers will just divide like normal but then I can combine the e's to e^(7pi/4 - 5pi/4)j right? Then after that convert to rectangular form? Is that the form you should always go to if the question does not specify?

The magnitude is your ##r## value; other names include the modulus and length. The argument is the ##\theta## value; another name for this is the phase.

For problems involving ##A/B## in rectangular form, you do not need to convert to exponential form to solve the problem. All you have to do is "rationalize" the denominator. With a complex number as the denominator, you multiply by 1 in the form of the complex conjugate of the denominator. The rest is just simplifying the algebra. Example:

##\frac{1}{3+3j} = \frac{1}{3+3j} \times 1 = \frac{1}{3+3j} \times \frac{3-3j}{3-3j} = \frac{3-3j}{(3+3j)(3-3j)} = \frac{3-3j}{18} = \frac{1}{6} - \frac{1}{6}j##
 
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