Compute the distance x and tension of each cable

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The problem involves a thin steel plate being lifted by cables AC and BC, with a focus on computing the distance x and the tension in each cable. The plate has a weight of 82 lb/ft², and participants are tasked with understanding the forces and moments acting on the system.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of the plate's weight and question the setup regarding the center of gravity and the implications of the plate being lifted slowly. There are inquiries about the meaning of equilibrium equations and the relationship between the angles and the distance x.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem setup and the conditions for equilibrium. Some guidance has been offered regarding the equations needed to relate the forces and torques, but no consensus has been reached on the specifics of the geometry or the necessary calculations.

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There are indications that the information provided may be incomplete, particularly regarding the lengths of the cables and the orientation of the plate. Participants are considering various assumptions about the configuration of the system.

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Homework Statement


The thin steel plate, weighing 82lb/ft^2, is being lifted slowly by the cables AC and BC. Compute the distance x and find the corresponding tension in each of the cables.
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Homework Equations


Summation of X = 0
Summation of Y = 0
Moment=Rd

The Attempt at a Solution


So i tried to get the weight of the steel plate. here's the solution..
2(21) + 4(12) + 1/2(9)(4) = 108ft^2
now i multiply the given 82lb/ft^2 to cancel out the ft^2
i get 8856lb.. After that i don't know where to start next. Can you guys help me out?
I really think the problem is easy but i got lost on where to start...
 

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I've not done many of these but I imagine it will swing so that the centre of gravity is below the hook. So where is the centre of gravity?
 
MrMechanic said:

Homework Statement


The thin steel plate, weighing 82lb/ft^2, is being lifted slowly by the cables AC and BC. Compute the distance x and find the corresponding tension in each of the cables.
[See attachments for Figure]

Homework Equations


Summation of X = 0
Summation of Y = 0
Moment=Rd

What do you mean by
"Summation of X = 0
Summation of Y = 0
Moment=Rd"

The plate is moving with a small constant speed upward. What is the acceleration then? It is kept horizontal, it does not turn. What do these mean on the forces and torques (moments) acting on it?


MrMechanic said:

The Attempt at a Solution


So i tried to get the weight of the steel plate. here's the solution..
2(21) + 4(12) + 1/2(9)(4) = 108ft^2
now i multiply the given 82lb/ft^2 to cancel out the ft^2
i get 8856lb.. After that i don't know where to start next. Can you guys help me out?
I really think the problem is easy but i got lost on where to start...


ehild
 
so you mean forces along x-axis is = to 0 and also the torque.
And how would i find the two angles there.
Should I Sum all the torque along A?
 
The sum of the x components of the forces is 0, and also the sum of the y components of the forces.

Also the sum of all torques about any point is zero. You can choose A.

You need to write up three equations in terms of x and the the unknown angles.

AS CWatters wrote, x is related to the position of the CM.

ehild
 
The information doesn't seem to be complete. It looks like the top of the plate is horizontal, and it looks like AC and BC have the same length. But these cannot both be true, and neither is clearly given as true. At a guess, AB is horizontal. At the least, that's the easier version of the problem.
 
I've looked at it again and I think haruspex has a point. I think they are asking you to work out what value of x is needed for the top edge of the plate to stay horizontal (and not as I suggested above that it will rotate). This implies AC and BC are different lengths but the lengths aren't specified so that's ok.
 

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