Conceptual question about (GEM forces)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the nature of gravitational and electric forces, particularly why these forces are not typically noticeable between everyday objects. Participants explore the conditions under which these forces become apparent and the role of mass and charge.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the gravitational and electric forces are not noticeable due to the relatively small mass of everyday objects compared to larger objects like planets.
  • Another participant questions the reasoning behind grouping gravitational and electric forces together, noting that mass is only relevant for gravitational forces.
  • A participant expresses confusion about the invisibility of electric forces between everyday objects, emphasizing the need for clarification.
  • It is proposed that everyday objects are typically electrically neutral, having equal numbers of positive and negative charges, which results in no net charge and thus no noticeable electric forces unless a charge imbalance occurs.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that mass is relevant to gravitational forces but express differing views on the relationship between electric forces and the mass of objects. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the visibility of electric forces in everyday contexts.

Contextual Notes

Participants do not fully explore the implications of charge imbalances or the conditions under which electric forces become significant, leaving some assumptions unexamined.

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please note- (GEM forces) stand for gravitational or electric forces.

Under normal circumstances, we are not aware of the gravitational or electric forces between two everyday objects.
Is this so because of the relative mass of these objects are very small in magnitude, when compared to larger objects like planets...
 
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This would be true for gravitational force. Why do you think gravitational and electric forces should go together in this?
For electric forces the mass is not relevant.
 
Yes, therefore mass is only relevant to gravitational forces. But I am confused why we are not aware of the electric forces between two everyday objects
 
Because most everyday objects are electrically neutral. They have equal numbers of positive and negative charges so that overall they are neutral, have no net charge.
The effect of electric forces becomes visible of you somehow produce a (small) imbalance between these charges and the object becomes "charged".
 
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