Condition for expectation value of an operator to depend on time

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The discussion revolves around the conditions under which the expectation value of a hermitian operator Q, in the context of a one-dimensional harmonic oscillator, depends on time. The original poster presents a scenario involving a particle in different initial states, specifically a momentum eigenstate and an energy eigenstate.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply the derived equation for the time evolution of the expectation value, questioning how to determine the conditions for time dependence based on the commutation relationship with the Hamiltonian.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring the implications of the commutation relation between the operator Q and the Hamiltonian H. There is an acknowledgment of confusion regarding the application of the derived equation, and some participants are seeking clarification on the original poster's approach.

Contextual Notes

The original poster expresses uncertainty about how to proceed with the problem, indicating a potential gap in understanding the relationship between the operator's properties and its time dependence. There are also indications of frustration regarding the responses received.

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A particle is in a 1D harmonic oscillator potential. Under what conditions will the
expectation value of an operator Q (no explicit time dependence) depend on time if
(i) the particle is initially in a momentum eigenstate?
(ii) the particle is initially in an energy eigenstate?

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The first two parts of this question required me to show that

\frac{d}{dt}<Q> = \frac{i}{hbar} <[H,Q]> + <\frac{d}{dt}Q>

Q is any hermitian operator. I did this fine and then derived the virial theorem from this, which is where the rate of change of the expectation for Q is zero. I'm assuming I'm supposed to use this equation to find the conditions, but to be perfectly honest I have no idea how to approach this at all.

I know that if the operator commutes with the Hamiltonian H then it will have no dependence on time, but how can I use this to answer the question?
 
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Thanks for the help david, what a complete waste of both of our time. Maybe it's far too obvious for you? I have no idea what's wrong with my post, so it'd be great if you could enlighten me.
 
I think David meant he wanted his post deleted, not your thread.
 
Oh sorry, apologies if that's the case.
 

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