Conditional expectation of three exponential distributed r.v.

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I've been struggling with this problem for more than 4 days now:

Let A, B and C be exponential distributed random variables with parameters lambda_A, lambda_B and lambda_C, respectively.

Calculate E [ B | A < B < C ] in terms of the lambda's.

I always seem get an integral which is impossible to calculate...

Who has a suggestion how to solve this problem?
 

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I always seem get an integral which is impossible to calculate...
That's how I'd try to do it too, can you show us what you got and where you were stuck?
 
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First a remark: we may assume that A, B and C are independent random variables (this may help a lot).

[tex]
E [ B | A < B < C ] = \int_{0}^\infty E [ B \, | \, A < B < C, A = a ] \; f_{A} ( a ) \; da
[/tex]
[tex]
= \int_{0}^\infty \int_{0}^\infty E [ B \, | \, A < B < C, A = a, C=c ] \; f_{A} ( a ) \; f_{C} ( c ) \; da \; dc.
[/tex]
(Along with all that follows, this integral is only to be considered over R_+^2 and for c>a.)
[tex]
= \int_{0}^\infty \int_{0}^\infty E [ B \, | \, a < B < c, A = a, C=c ] \; f_{A} ( a ) \; f_{C} ( c ) \; da \; dc
[/tex]
(by independence)
[tex]
= \int_{0}^\infty \int_{0}^\infty E [ B \, | \, a < B < c ] \; f_{A} ( a ) \; f_{C} ( c ) \; da \; dc
[/tex]

We want to compute [tex] E [ B \, | \, a < B < c ]. [/tex]

First note that
[tex] E [ B \, | \, a < B < c ] = \frac{ \int_a^c t f_{B} (t) dt }{P( B \in [a,c])}.[/tex]

We have[tex] \int_a^c t f_{B} (t) dt = ... = (a e^{- \lambda_B a} - c e^{- \lambda_B c}) + \frac{1}{\lambda_B} ( e^{- \lambda_B a} - e^{- \lambda_B c} ) [/tex]
and
[tex] P(B \in [a,c]) = F_B (c) - F_B (a) = ... = e^{- \lambda_B a} - e^{- \lambda_B c}. [/tex]

Hence
[tex] E [ B \, | \, a < B < c ] = \frac{ (a e^{- \lambda_B a} - c e^{- \lambda_B c}) + \frac{1}{\lambda_B} ( e^{- \lambda_B a} - e^{- \lambda_B c} ) }{e^{- \lambda_B a} - e^{- \lambda_B c}},[/tex]
[tex] E [ B \, | \, a < B < c ] = \frac{ a e^{- \lambda_B a} - c e^{- \lambda_B c} }{e^{- \lambda_B a} - e^{- \lambda_B c}} + \frac{1}{\lambda_B}.[/tex]

So
[tex]
E [ B | A < B < C ] = \int_{0}^\infty \int_{0}^\infty \left( \frac{ a e^{- \lambda_B a} - c e^{- \lambda_B c} }{e^{- \lambda_B a} - e^{- \lambda_B c}} + \frac{1}{\lambda_B} \right) \; f_{A} ( a ) \; f_{C} ( c ) \; da \; dc
[/tex]
[tex]
= \int_{0}^\infty \int_{0}^\infty \left( \frac{ a e^{- \lambda_B a} - c e^{- \lambda_B c} }{e^{- \lambda_B a} - e^{- \lambda_B c}} \right) \lambda_A e^{- \lambda_A a} \; \lambda_C e^{- \lambda_C c} \; da \; dc +
[/tex]
[tex]
\int_{0}^\infty \int_{0}^\infty \frac{1}{\lambda_B} \lambda_A e^{- \lambda_A a} \; \lambda_C e^{- \lambda_C c} \; da \; dc
[/tex]


Here's my problem: I can't compute the first of these integrals... And even then I'm not sure if what I'm doing here is correct... Is my calculation right, or is it wrong!? Is there perhaps a better way to calculate this? Etc.
 
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[tex]
E [ B | A < B < C ] = \int_{0}^\infty E [ B \, | \, A < B < C, A = a ] \; f_{A} ( a ) \; da
[/tex]
I'm not sure about this line - the marginals of the conditional distribution aren't necessarily exponential. Another approach is to apply directly the definition of conditional probabilities, so that

[tex]E[B|A<B<C] = E[B.I(A<B<C)]/P[A<B<C][/tex]

which is a ratio of integrals that should both be tractable.

Hope this helps.
 
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I'm not sure about this line - the marginals of the conditional distribution aren't necessarily exponential. Another approach is to apply directly the definition of conditional probabilities, so that

[tex]E[B|A<B<C] = E[B.I(A<B<C)]/P[A<B<C][/tex]

which is a ratio of integrals that should both be tractable.

Hope this helps.
Isn't this just the "law of total expectation"?

I don't really understand your point I'm afraid.

EDIT: Yes, we can also go by the second approach.

Then how to calculate [tex] E[B.I(A<B<C)] [/tex] exactly ? (I'm not sure how to start with this integral.)
 
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Isn't this just the "law of total expectation"?

I don't really understand your point I'm afraid.

EDIT: Yes, we can also go by the second approach.

Then how to calculate [tex] E[B.I(A<B<C)] [/tex] exactly ? (I'm not sure how to start with this integral.)
I now understand what you mean by "I'm not sure about this line (...)": you're completely right, it's wrong!
 
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Then how to calculate [tex] E[B.I(A<B<C)] [/tex] exactly ? (I'm not sure how to start with this integral.)
Ok, this can be simplified to

[tex]\int_R b.f_A(a).f_B(b).f_C(c)da.db.dc[/tex]

where R is the region a<b<c.
 

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