Conformally flat s-t, includes implicit dependence in EoM?

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1. Homework Statement

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2. The attempt at a solution

Time-like killing vector is associated with energy.

## \frac{d}{ds} (\frac{\mu^2\dot{t}}{R^2})=0##

Let me denote this conserved quantity by the constant ##E=\frac{\mu^\dot{t}}{R^2}##
where ##\mu=\mu(z)## . similarly we for sure have a conserved quantity associated with ##x## and ##y## , I am unsure about ##z## however...

a)##ds^2=\frac{\mu^2}{R^2}(-dt^2+dx^2+dy^2+dz^2)##

b) it is conformally flat since it is the flat space-time (in Cartesian coordinates) metric multiplied by a factor which is a function of the coordinates

c ) since it says to 'write down' the geodesic equations it is clear that the metric components have no dependence on ##t,y,x## and so there is a KVF associated with each of these coordinates. I am unsure whether you treat ## \mu(z)## as ##z## dependence or not.

So if when writing the Euler Lagrange equation associated with ##z## i was going to do:
##\frac{dL}{dz}=\frac{dL}{d\mu}\frac{d\mu}{dz}## .If I don't do this then there is a conserved quantity associated with ##z## as there is no explicit z dependence.

However since the question asks you to 'write down' I suspect we ignore the implicit depdence of ##z## via ##\mu## so that there is a conserved quantity associated with ##z## and are only interested in any explicit dependence when differentiating ##L##. Is this correct? I don't really understand why you'd ignore the implicit dependence of ##z##

many thanks
 

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binbagsss said:
1. Homework Statement

Question attached

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2. The attempt at a solution

Time-like killing vector is associated with energy.

## \frac{d}{ds} (\frac{\mu^2\dot{t}}{R^2})=0##

Let me denote this conserved quantity by the constant ##E=\frac{\mu^\dot{t}}{R^2}##
where ##\mu=\mu(z)## . similarly we for sure have a conserved quantity associated with ##x## and ##y## , I am unsure about ##z## however...

a)##ds^2=\frac{\mu^2}{R^2}(-dt^2+dx^2+dy^2+dz^2)##

b) it is conformally flat since it is the flat space-time (in Cartesian coordinates) metric multiplied by a factor which is a function of the coordinates

c ) since it says to 'write down' the geodesic equations it is clear that the metric components have no dependence on ##t,y,x## and so there is a KVF associated with each of these coordinates. I am unsure whether you treat ## \mu(z)## as ##z## dependence or not.

So if when writing the Euler Lagrange equation associated with ##z## i was going to do:
##\frac{dL}{dz}=\frac{dL}{d\mu}\frac{d\mu}{dz}## .If I don't do this then there is a conserved quantity associated with ##z## as there is no explicit z dependence.

However since the question asks you to 'write down' I suspect we ignore the implicit depdence of ##z## via ##\mu## so that there is a conserved quantity associated with ##z## and are only interested in any explicit dependence when differentiating ##L##. Is this correct? I don't really understand why you'd ignore the implicit dependence of ##z##

many thanks
Can you explain what your ##\mu$$ stands for?
 
nrqed said:
Can you explain what your ##\mu$$ stands for?
Given in the question posted in the op? Coordinate transformation on z ?
 
binbagsss said:
Given in the question posted in the op? Coordinate transformation on z ?
Ah! You used ##\mu## for ##u## then? Ok, then what is your ##i## in your definition of the energy? And the dot over the time refers to a derivative with respect to ##s##? What what do you mean by ##s## in your ##d/ds##? Do you mean the proper time?
 
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