Confused by E=ρ/ε0 in Conductors and Dielectrics?

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The discussion centers on the application of Gauss' Law in different materials, specifically dielectrics and conductors. It highlights confusion regarding the use of ε0 versus ε in the equation ▼. E = ρ/ε0, with a suggestion that ε should be used for dielectrics where ε = εr * ε0. Participants clarify that while the equation is valid for conductors, the electric field E is zero inside a conductor under electrostatic conditions. The conversation emphasizes using the displacement field D for dielectrics to avoid complications with permittivity. Understanding these distinctions is crucial for correctly applying electrostatic principles in various materials.
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A little bit of confusion:

Is it not correct to write ▼. E=ρ/ε0 inside a dielectric body.
As far as I know we should write ε instead of ε0.[where ε=εr*ε0]
Then why do we write ▼. E=ρ/ε0 inside a conductor?
 
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Are the dimensions correct in this equation: E=ρ/ε0 ?
I don't think so since an electric field from a charge is given by:

E = q/(4 pi ε0 r²) and since q/r² is no a charge density.

This can also be looked at from physical point of view.
 
lalbatros said:
Are the dimensions correct in this equation: E=ρ/ε0 ?
I don't think so since an electric field from a charge is given by:

E = q/(4 pi ε0 r²) and since q/r² is no a charge density.

This can also be looked at from physical point of view.

He is referring to the differential form of Gauss' Law. I think you are not seeing the \nabla in the OP, it seems to be black inverted triangle.
 
neelakash said:
A little bit of confusion:

Is it not correct to write ▼. E=ρ/ε0 inside a dielectric body.
As far as I know we should write ε instead of ε0.[where ε=εr*ε0]
Then why do we write ▼. E=ρ/ε0 inside a conductor?

When you deal with dielectrics, use D instead of E. This would be the most general form and will be true, even when you "simplify" it to the vacuum case. Only in the end do you need to do a quick conversion to E. This way, you don't have to worry about all your permitivity.

Zz.
 
When you deal with dielectrics, use D instead of E. This would be the most general form and will be true, even when you "simplify" it to the vacuum case. Only in the end do you need to do a quick conversion to E. This way, you don't have to worry about all your permitivity.

Yes!that is a way to avoid the uneasiness.

But my question is why I can write ▼. E=ρ/ε0 inside a conductor?
 
neelakash said:
But my question is why I can write ▼. E=ρ/ε0 inside a conductor?

Because BY DEFINITION, under an electrostatic condition, E=0 inside a conductor.

Zz.
 
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